Huh. I’m also a mod of [email protected] and I was able to respond to a comment on db0 like 8 days ago.
Huh. I’m also a mod of [email protected] and I was able to respond to a comment on db0 like 8 days ago.
But if you get banned from vegan communities, then you can’t go into an active vegan thread and say…
“pssst… vegan cat food”
Edit: Right? I’m surprised to be getting downvotes. I’m not vegan, but I don’t particularly have anything against vegans personally. But the drama of vegans arguing about whether it’s ok to feed a cat a vegan diet is hillarious to me.
You should run for president. You’ve already got my vote.
If you haven’t seen this, I’m sorry and you’re welcome.
(SFW)
Anything can run on anything with enough effort and ingenuity.
So… is this a thing you’re thinking shouldn’t be the case?
If we were to agree this was a bad power for admins to have, then how, from a technical point of view, would we prevent admins from doing so? There’s no real way to prevent an instance admin from, for instance, running a fork of Lemmy that has as a feature, for instance, the ability to prevent a local user from posting on remote instances’ communities or a specific remote instance’s community (even if the official upstream Lemmy repo developers/maintainers decided to remove that feature).
Theoretically, given that Lemmy is licensed under the AGPL, one could legally demand the source code of any specific Lemmy instance and from that source code obtain proof that it was a fork and what differences might be on that instance relative to the upstream official Lemmy repo.
I guess if I had to come up with another way to prevent a fork from preventing users from posting on remote instances’ communities, I might suppose maybe one option would be for Lemmy officially to support logging into your instance 1 account from instance 2’s domain. (Might require some OAuth fanciness to allow that without potentially opening up the user to their account being accessed by instance 2 if instance 2 happened to be maliciuos.) And if you did that, you’d be subject to instance 2’s rules for being able or not able to post to a given community on instance 2 or instance 3 or whatever. That would undermine instance 1’s ability to prevent you from posting on instance 2 or instance 3 or whatever.
Or maybe I’m misunderstanding you and you’re not advocating for anything in particular. Just sharing information.
My employer considers developers, infra, SRE, PC Support, even QA all to be part of the “IT department”. I’ve always used the term “IT” to just cover any specifically “tech” sort of function. As opposed to, say, finance, sales, HR, operations, etc.
Ok, why do you think she lost the general election and the popular vote then?
I mean… that’s a pretty low bar, though, right? Kamala just set the world record for fastest time from hype to revulsion any politician has ever achieved and pulled her entire party along into the grave she dug herself.
And I wish that was all he had.
Na.
Because Congress is letting him.
I just hate that so many people are refusing any AI tool because it is AI… in my opinion there are places, where these tools are really useful.
Well, we can agree to disagree. Lol! Seriously, I honestly don’t have much charity for what is being called “generative AI” lately. Wouldn’t be caught dead using it. (Hell, I’m a mod of the “FuckAI” community here on Lemmy. Which isn’t actually saying that much because there are a lot of mods in that community. Heh. Anyway.)
But! To each their own.
So lwt me repeat, codecomic sound awesome and I only wrote my comment to start a discussion.
Thanks! I’m glad to see some interest in it!
I have one question, would it be okay to create codecomic source code with LLM?
Well, as someone who is vehimently anti-AI, I don’t really think it’s “okay” to use LLMs or Stable Diffusion or whatever at all. But I wouldn’t say it’s any less ok to use an LLM to generate codecomic source code than to generate… I dunno… C++ source code or OpenSCAD source code or whatever. (Last I heard, the chat bots were so abysmally bad at OpenSCAD as to be completely infeasible to shoehorn into that use case. Not sure if anything’s changed about that. Similarly, I’d think with codecomic being as obscure as it is with very few example code snippets out there to train on, I’d be really surprised if any LLMs out there would be even a fraction as good any time soon at codecomic even as they’ve ever been at OpenSCAD.)
(This is probably a good point to say IANAL and none of what I say is legal advice.)
Beyond that, I purposefully licensed codecomic under the GPLv3 on the premise that I’m not ok with anyone else distributing any portion of codecomic (or anything I Open Source, really) without ensuring the recipient has the corresponding source code. (Also, codecomic’s source code has a “terser” binary form that can save space, so there is a rough equivalent to the difference between “compiled” and “source” code when speaking of codecomic code. Plus, codecomic can be used as a Go library instead of using the codecomic DSL and Go is a compiled language.) Given that basically the only codecomic source code publicly available right now is in my repository and covered by the GPLv3, any codecomic source code any LLM would be trained on any time soon would be licensed under the GPLv3. And any codecomic source code an LLM output would pretty much have to be so closely copied directly from that that I’d say it would ethically be well within my rights to demand attribution and compliance with the “source code provision” of the GPLv3. (Honestly, I’m not likely to spend money on lawyers to force the issue really. I might send a cease and desist or something if I found out that was being done, though. But you didn’t ask whether one could get away with it. Just whether it’s “okay”.)
I know in some jurisdictions, courts have basically ruled that the copyright owners of the training data don’t own the copyright on the output of LLMs trained on their work. (I think some courts have ruled that the human running/using the LLM doesn’t own the copyright on the LLM’s output either because to be covered by copyright requires specifically a human to exercise some amount of creativity in the creation of the work. One might be able to argue that “prompt engineering” qualifies as “creative”. I hope that argument doesn’t fly, but who knows what the courts will eventually decide.) But in those cases, the LLMs would be trained on data from such a diverse set of sources, under such a diverse set of different licenses, and from such a diverse set of authors that it can’t really be tracked down “which works” are being copied. But in the case of codecomic, unless/until wider-ish adoption happens, I’m thinking it would be a harder sell to try to claim that LLM-generated codecomic source code isn’t a derivative work of codecomic itself.
But again, if lots of people started publishing codecomic source code under licenses that don’t have a “source code provision” or anything roughly equivalent, I don’t think it would be any worse to use an LLM to generate codecomic source code than to generate source code in any other particular language. Hopefully that answers the question. Heh.
And one final note on AI tools. Some of them are really complex. I don’t use them much, but some of them allow user to edit only parts of the image with a prompt, or create an image based on user sketch, etc.
Yeah, I wouldn’t say any of those use cases really make LLMs any more similar to codecomic, though. There’s still a big difference between the two approaches to producing an image or webcomic or whatever.
But does using this solve anything?
If you hate the mouse like I do, yes. Think of codecomic as comparable to OpenSCAD only where OpenSCAD is for making 3d models, codecomic is for making webcomics. (And of course 3d models could be made in FreeCAD, but OpenSCAD makes for a different paradigm.)
Full disclosure, I’m the author of codecomic. (I’m the AntiMS who owns that repository on Gitlab.) Just to explain why I wrote it in the first place, I was GMing a D&D game at the time. And I have my own system for organizing my GM notes (which is a whole other code project that I haven’t Open Sourced yet) that involves writing Markdown and running a build process that generates a static HTML “website” locally which I can look at and navigate at the table.
A picture (in this case, a webcomic or storyboard) is worth 1000 words and my brain can process it quicker while I’m at the table and thinking on my feet. (I don’t want to be at the table and be like “hold on everybody while I read these three paragraphs of notes about the next 30 seconds of what is likely to go down in-game.”) Interpreting a webcomic is just something my brain does faster.
But if I have to slog and toil at the Gimp user interface to crank out tons of webcomics… I’ll probably just rage-quit GMing rather than endure that.
Plus organizing all the images so they appear correctly in my notes would be a pain. And making tweaks and revisions to comics I’d made previously would be a nightmare.
So I wrote codecomic to speed things up. And the coolest part. I wrote an extension for my markdown-based notes system to let me embed codecomic source code blocks directly in my markdown source files. Running the build for my notes system would produce HTML like usual, but with the generated comics directly in the HTML documents.
(And then scheduling conflicts happened and the campaign fizzled out. Sigh. Such is the life of the forever GM. Lol.)
I definitely didn’t want to have to fight with something like Stable Diffusion for this use case. If I wanted to tweak an existing comic and move one stick figure 20 pixels to the right or modify the text in a “speech bubble”, I didn’t want to have to regenerate the image with roughly the same keywords and pray to my graphics card that it would output exactly what I have in mind. I just want to modify my codecomic source code to change the X coordinate of that stick figure by 30 pixels.
one of the main issues with AI generated comics is that the author do not present himself in the images, and by using this tool, the images are also automatically generated by users description. There is more control over the final layout and there is needed more creativity to create it. But in the end I see the same issues about “being lazy” and having no author personality in the images. PS: I’m not saying this tool should be banned, just want to point out some similarities of this tool to AI tools.
Codecomic is quite limited and opinionated in its current functionality. I’ve definitely got things in mind regarding how I might extend it in the future to give users more creative freedom. (Mind you, I probably wouldn’t get back to working on it any time soon unless folks start expressing interest in it. Keep in mind the codecomic repository has exactly one (one!) commit in it.) It doesn’t support backgrounds currently. I’d be interested (if others expressed interest in it) in potentially adding support for other, more sophisticated ways to represent characters than just stick figures. More ways to draw stuff. Other ways of drawing lines that have more “character”. Etc etc etc.
You definitely have a point when it comes to the current state of codecomic. But whereas something like Stable Diffusion can’t be extended to give users more creative freedom, I don’t think the same could be said about the approach codecomic takes. Codecomic could definitely be evolved more to allow the user to put more of themselves into the comics while still reducing some of the overhead and “fiddliness” of using something line Gimp for making web comics.
One more point I’ll make. I think the approach that codecomic takes would allow for “incrementally” adding more of “yourself” into comics in a way that Stable Diffusion couldn’t. Spending more time designing your Stable Diffusion prompts/keywords/inputs/whatever could give you “better” (and I put “better” here in very large double quotes) results. But only to a point. After not too long, further tuning your input is going to give you increasingly diminishing returns. With codecomic’s approach (or at least the vision for codecomic), there’s not really a limit to how much creativity one could pour into a given webcomic.
Also, thanks for your input! I’ll definitely at least make some notes and let that influence the direction I take codecomic in the future. (If I do continue working on it, that is. No promises.)
Edit: Some screenshots from my GM notes to show how I’m using codecomic:
It differs from AI in that it’s completely unintelligent and doesn’t try or pretend to be intelligent or creative in any way. It leaves all the intelligence and creativity up to the user. It involves no “training” on large quantities of scraped data. It won’t do anything it isn’t explicitly told to do. The exact placement and pose of every stick figure, the precise layout and size of the individual frames, the exact content of every chunk of text is all explicitly and precisely specified by the user of codecomic. (In a source code file.) Also, a given source code file will only ever produce exactly the same webcomic whereas generally with generative AI, the exact same input can be used to generate a bunch of candidate images from which the user must select the “best.”
With something like Stable Diffusion, it does rely on lots of training data and the user’s only input into the content of the “generated” output is to throw a word-salad of keywords at it and tell it to “discern roughly something that fits these keywords”. The user doesn’t specify the exact location of anything in the resulting image. The user doesn’t have control over what exact text appears in the resulting image (and typically AI can’t even do text that’s sensical). At best the user can “influence” what’s output by tuning the keywords and hope with their fingers crossed that the Stable Diffusion model does roughly what the user has in mind.
Grikug’s little helper.
Well shit. Every new thing I learn about the country I live in makes it shittier.
IANAL, but I think /r/legaladvice might say in a case like this that once you’ve communicated to your landlord that the AC is busted, you should move into a hotel until the AC is fixed, send bills for reimbursement to the landlord, and refuse to pay more than your regular rent charge. Theoretically, the courts should back you up. (Unless, again, AC isn’t considered a big enough deal to make your place uninhabitable in the eyes of the law locally.) Though also, if you don’t have enough money on hand to just go stay at a hotel, reimbursement may not be good enough to justify that plan for your particular case. I dunno. Might be worth researching your options more, though.
Edit: LilB0kChoy has some relevant info in another comment, however, that makes it seem less likely that you’d be able to use the law in your favor here. :/
Of course! Just figure out how to get the potato into superposition for long enough to run the algorithm first. The rest is the easy part.