Mate the argument isn’t that the entire US looks like this.
But it’s damn near everywhere in the US and it’s ugly as sin.
That is exactly the argument that was made. Population density has never come into this. Also the basis that nearly everyone lives within 5-10 miles of a scene like that is a (simplistically, because we’re talking about structures on a line) 10-20 mile stretch without that kind of development (so definitionally not the whole US) and a claim you have nothing on which to base it except that 1/4 of people in the country live in the big cities - which is not news.





Well I suppose that’s fair. It would be nice to have an understanding of that ambiguity extended towards my own comments, but sure. For example here:
Which isn’t even what I’m doing.
I think there are some real issues with the assumptions here - you’re trying to claim that these kinds of development are common, something I’ve already said I agree with. But population density has never come into this until you brought it up, and that urban areas contain the majority of the population hasn’t been contested either. Your own initial claim was narrow in scope (though I would still very much argue they’re misinformed), but they were made in support of an absurd claim and that’s primarily what’s being discussed.
Incidentally while the prior claim was never “most people live within ten miles of a development or developed road like this” this is a claim you could absolutely support by just going to the collected data and doing the analysis yourself (ideally before the trump admin takes it all down…) using (I recommend) QGIS (another GIS modeling tool will work too, just never ever arc. Fuck arc, and especially fuck that sexist POS Jack Dangermond). This isn’t hard, it’s on the level of a freshman GIS assignment, and I wholeheartedly encourage you to learn about it because GIS is extremely cool and important! (Helpfully there are plenty of people that have already done analysis on questions extremely similar to or identical to this which you can use as examples).
I will also very happily help you with this if you would like to DM me, I have a GIS course coming up and this will make an excellent introductory assignment so it would be very useful to run through it before developing it into actual coursework.
(Side note: If 80% of the population lives within an urban area, why does only 25% of the population live within 1/2km of a high-density road? It’s not a gotcha I promise, it’s just that the difference in definitional scope between the wikipedia page and your first claim about 25% of the population is really stark and it’s a great example of why you can’t simply conflate two datasets and draw conclusions from the results - there does need to be some effort expended on ensuring that the data does indeed say what you mean it to say)