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  • You’re completely missing the point I’m making - it’s nothing to do with how matchmaking works or how to get self-hosted servers to work.

    Your quote about “every game before the mid 2000s” is just reinforcing what I’m trying to tell you: no modern PvP game can get away with it anymore.

    The current average player who’s played any modern PvP game in recent memory expects to be able to click a PLAY button that puts them into a match. That is your default user experience expectation.

    If you require players to have to dig through a server list like people had to during the pre-mid-2000s, you lose players FAST.

    You dilute your player base by allowing people to play in self-hosted servers because your default user experience of clicking PLAY and getting into a game gets worse (less players means less diversity of player skill and longer queue times).

    For a game and studio that has no existing reputation and players who will jump on their stuff, you don’t have the luxury of splitting your already potentially small player base.

    Modern PvP games that allow you to have custom games are all well-established and already have a healthy player base.





  • hirogdev@lemmy.worldtoGames@lemmy.worldDeceive Inc. Developer Sweet Bandits Shuts Down
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    While this sounds like a good idea, in the modern landscape of PvP games, it would never work.

    Current player expectations for PvP games are now “click play, get into game”. Every layer of friction filters out players who don’t want to go through the hassle of being able to just play the game they bought.

    It seems easy for you because you played multiplayer games in the 90s, but anyone born after that era will have to learn to filter through a megalist of servers with names like “BoB’s L33t S3rv3r”.

    But let’s play devil’s advocate and say the devs could still add the self-hosted servers to their game in a couple different ways.

    If devs added it to accompany the default matchmaking, there’s now the problem of their player base being siphoned away from the main matchmaking pool, which further destroys the default player experience.

    If devs added self-hosted servers as a way to supplement their own matchmaking servers (e.g. officially hosted servers + player hosted servers), the player experience can now wildly vary depending on which server you connect to, especially since devs can’t guarantee the same experience on random Joe’s home ISP connection and server hardware.

    There’s no winning for the devs. While your sentiment is valid, the practicality of doing it is not feasible anymore.

    The sunsetting idea is good though and I wished that happened more too.