Can we get a list of people that are on the Fediverse and you’d like to support?

Because then it wouldn’t be “all” any more.

You could do something like that, where instance admins choose what they believe is more relevant, but then it would be better to call it “featured” or “curated”…

Sub.rehab is super outdated and https://fediverser.network/ is easier and crowdsourced.

We need federated identity or else ux will continue to lag

What I am saying is that the ActivityPub protocol is inherently built towards a server-centric system, where identities are owned by the server. Go read the spec: even the “Client-to-Server” specification assumes that the server owns the keys and dictates that the client (i.e, users) must do everything through the API provided by the server (i.e, the client’s outbox).

Anything that is built with a design where the client owns the keys may even be able to interoperate with ActivityPub, but is not ActivityPub.

Activity Pods is cool bit not implemented on mastodon.

It’s the other way around. We shouldn’t be looking for “Mastodon on ActivityPods”, but “ActivityPods applications that can talk with Mastodon servers”, and those do exist.

We still don’t need ATProto for that. ActivityPods solves that.

ActivityPub itself is built around the principle that the server owns your identity: the best you can do is abandon an identity (i.e, your actor URL) and tell everyone else (via the Move Activity) that you are adopting a new identity.

And they are either in for one of the following:

• a $30 Million lesson where they learn that they will have to reinvent ActivityPub in order to be “properly” decentralized
• a rug pull where they come up with a second relay like Bluesky but fork to give exclusive access for large institutions and the enterprise.

AFAIK, Communick is the only service provider offering GoToSocial (disclaimer, I am the owner).

How would it be any different from https://masto.host/, https://elest.io/ or https://communick.com/ (All of them provide mastodon hosting exclusively on European infrastructure)?

I am here because I know that it has potential despite the prevailing culture, not thanks to it.

Nice job linking to the discussions, it really helps to make the case for my argument: community is not enough, and y’all need to start putting your money where your mouths are.

There are dozens of us! Dozens, I say!

It’s not interesting. It’s anecdotal at best and a bad coping strategy at worst.

Instead of calling sour grapes, just face reality: this ecosystem is doomed to failure and stunted growth unless people start showing up with real cash to support it.

We can not have both ways. If we hate VCs and we don’t want ad-infested, Surveillance Capitalism, we must ourselves pay what developers are worth. Otherwise they will just be playing around here, but collecting their nice paychecks from Big Tech.

Red teams are hired by the companies that are looking for vulnerabilities. If you don’t get explicit approval by the target to look for exploits, you are just a hacker who can (and should) go to jail.

I don’t get what well I’m pissing into

The well is the social graph itself. You are polluting the conversations by adding content that is not original nor desirable.

I’m an idiot for developing essential human like entity.

You are an idiot because you are pushing AI slop to people who are asking you not to, while thinking that you work in something groundbreaking.

Ok, final message because I’m tired of this:

• you are openly admitting that you are going to piss on the well by adding a bot that pretends to be a human.
• you are openly admitting that you are going to do this without providing any form of mitigation.
• you are going to do this while pushing data to the whole network. No prior testing in a test instance, not even using your own instance for it.
• you think that is fine to leave the onus of “detecting” the bot to the others.

You are a complete idiot.

See, so now you are back to saying to your plan is to make a shitty thing and put the burden on those against it to come up with countermeasures. That’s just lame.

You were implying not just that you wanted to detect bots, but that you wanted to to write your own set of bots that would pretend to be humans.

If your plan is only to write detection of bots, it’s a whole different thing.

There is a big difference if your bot provides functionality that is good for the community and a bot that does only things that interests you.

People are asking you not to do this. So, if you want to do it, do it on your resources. I’m saying that as someone who set up almost 20 different instances (alien.top + the topic specific instances) just to have a place to run the mirroring bots.

You want to write software that subverts the expectations of users (who are coming here with the expectation they will be chatting with other people) and abusing resources provided by others who did not ask you to help you with any sort of LLM detection.

You don’t do tests in an actual production environment. It is unethical and irresponsible.

Feel free to do your experiments on your servers, with people who are aware that they are being subject to some type of experiment. Anything else and I will make sure to get as many admins as possible to ban you and your bots from the federation.

I completely understood your analogy, and I certainly understand the fun in tinkering with technology. What you might be missing is that it seems that OP is planning to write a bunch of bots in here and then test how well people can detect them, and that affects other people.