Posting to show that not only US media is seeing it this way. It was a disgrace.
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Anyone else noticed a clear link between this and what happened not too long ago with Macron exposing him as the liar that he is in front of everyone by very tactfully and diplomatically fact checking him?
It really looks like Trump was terrified to get a repeat of that with Zelenskyi so he brought Vance along for backup and then whenever Zelenskyi was about to make a point they’d just speak over him, repeating their own bullshit narrative over and over again.
It’s pathetic.
If he wasn’t ruining the world you could almost feel sorry for an old man so insecure with himself and unable to come to any self-reflection despite how far along he is in his twilight years.
But it’s Trump and he is an absolute moron and you just hope that slightly off-level piece of concrete where he walks finally comes for his hip, shattering it in a billion pieces and doing him in permanently.
Vance is such a piece of shit. Fuck him.
I simply cannot understand how anyone can take him seriously. How do you see him go from calling Trump “America’s Hitler” to being a sniveling suck-up to everything Trump says and does without realizing he has absolutely no spine? I mean, I don’t know why I am surprised at this point, anyone who hasn’t been put off by Trump in the past decade isn’t going to care about a little thing like a moral backbone, and yet I still just find myself dumbfounded by the lows we somehow continue to sink towards.
It makes more sense when you realize he wasn’t using “America’s Hitler” as an insult.
America and Ukraine broke up on live TV, that was good content.
Content? Content?! People are dying. Get a grip
Righteous indignation aside, you’re outraged about something that shouldn’t have happened and could have been prevented. Manufactured for profit and power. While people die, we sit and watch it on television. It is Society of the Spectacle manifested..
This was just drama manufactured by the legacy media because they hate Trump.
The uncut conversation was pretty civil.
Yes, that was very precisely chosen eight uninterrupted minutes of absolute cringe by the American leadership I saw. I’m sure the rest more than made up for the uncut embarrassing clown act the legacy media had chosen to air.
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Trump looked like a bully with severe memory disorder and Vance looked nothing short of foolish. Both were completely outwitted.
Vance is a fish out of water, bereft of tact.
I have had a low-key crush on Zelensky for about 15 years.
Nothing has ever made me respect the man more than him standing up to both Trump and Vance. This is a man worthy of praise for his fortitude and his dedication to his people.
I wish the United States could have a leader even a fraction as strong as Zelensky.
“I need ammunition, not a ride.”
“We’re not playing cards”
Winston Churchill was a fucking racist asshole. Not sure he would shed a tear to see this racist clown act like a bully.
Edit: why was this downvoted?
Edit: why was this downvoted?
I’d assume less pro-Churchill sentiment, more “people don’t read articles and are wondering why you brought up Churchill”
In France it was called an extraordinary meltdown:
“Earlier Friday, Trump cut the meeting short with Zelensky, said the Ukrainian leader is “not ready” for peace with Russia in an extraordinary meltdown in the Oval Office that threw question marks over chances for a truce”
In Germany it was a shouting match:
US President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance’s conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in the Oval Office turned into a shouting match.
If you look at European news sources, it’s filled with representatives from various countries all saying variations of “holy shit, we really can’t trust the US anymore”.
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Yup. Canada already had a treaty with the US in NAFTA. But, in Trump’s first term, it was pressured into abandoning that and signing a new treaty, the USMCA. The whole point of these treaties was to provide tariff-free access to US markets (and vice versa). Canada had to give up a lot to get that guarantee.
Now Trump is violating his own new USMCA treaty, who knows why. Most likely it’s just a grudge against Trudeau. So, Canada gave up on certain rights to get the treaty, and now the treaty is being ignored by the guy who pushed it. The smart move on Canada’s part would be to stop enforcing all the IP terms in the deal, which are all hugely favourable to Hollywood at the expense of Canada’s domestic industries.
Yeah our government is so flippy floppy. It sucks. Our first goddamn president warned against a two party state
He warned against it but the structure they all put in place ensures it’s what we get.
