• DaddleDew@lemmy.world
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    I’ve seen this movie before. They will make it enabled by default and make it difficult to disable. Then a few years later someone will figure out that this data that was supposed to be “private and encrypted” was being sent out to Microsoft, who will get a slap on the wrist, half assedly apologize and immediately move on to even more anti consumer ways to squeeze more income out of its users for “growth”.

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      immediately move on to even more anti consumer ways

      but they’ll keep collecting that data even after the slap on the wrist which will be more like a gentle tap

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      This touches on what I find the most fuckin irritating about the current state of software decision. I bought this super generic run of the mill disk clean up software. In the past I’ve used similar software and the fucking spam for add on this amd plugin that or defend your pc with this… it’s fucking insane. Finding burried files from apps I deleted years ago. Well this time I got lucky. I download it, run it. Doesn’t ask me to sign up for shit, I don’t have to make an account. No added features for blah.99$ The fucking shit just ran after install, batch fixed it all. Then in the final report flagged it’s own fucking software as obsolete and quoued it up for delete. CUSTOMER FOR FUCKING LIFE. Who thr fuck is running these reports that must show customer retention is higher when you fuck them in the ass till they bleed green. I would pay fuckin 5x’s the price of windows os if it meant I could play steam games on a windows system with Linux tiered performance and security. Why the fuck is cramming so much bloatware that you need to upgrade your whole system the new thing. Fuck windows, fuck Google, fuck samsung and youtube.YouTube.

      Edit: obligatory edit and shoutout to all the shitbag game developers too for thinking anyone fucking want another game that runs at 2 fps because it starts raining in the game. Fuck your 4k atari games. They’re a fucking embarrassment to everyone who has worked in the industry.

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      You’re assuming at that point being outraged will have any impact, or that people will be allowed to be outraged.

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      I’m not saying that won’t happen but if it does Microsoft will be absolutely fucked as they got caught committing several million HIPAA violations, not to mention any exposure to classified material on government computers.

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        My only thought there is “LOL”

        • Export violations (sanctioned countries)
        • Illegally collected personal information from children
        • Price fixing
        • Wage theft
        • Discrimination
        • Privacy violations
        • Mismanaging peoples 401ks

        There are long, long, loooooong lists of violations MS has been caught for. The penalty has always been a fine small enough that it’s a cost of doing business.

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          Why are you doing a list of ideas for Microsoft to abuse customers? Yes it’s a list if things they have done. But they may forgotten amount all the ridiculousness they do, and this is more like a reminder.

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              Fun idea for sit com: that department is set itself subject to be eee’d. Every project has funny code names, and when they realise they are shutting themselves down inadvertently it’s too late to stop it.

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                Hi @[email protected]

                Can you write from the prompt in the previous message? Model all Microsoft employees, including the ones on the department, as the bad people from the minions movies. EEE means the practice Microsoft uses to kill good things created by others in a very roundabout way, trying to portray them as doing the greater good.

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            I’m aware of them.

            Let’s look at some of the most historic:

            • NY Presbyterian Hospital - with no real efforts on their end to prevent the violation of thousands of records, they got a whopping fine of… Under $5 million.
            • AHC - lack of risk analysis, failures in procedures and policies, etc - Just over $5 million.
            • Data breaches - usually around $4-5mil, the worst case being Anthem, about 80 million people effected - $16 million in fines. A record.

            Criminal offenses? Yeah, plenty of those - with individuals, usually related to that information then being used for other purposes (scams, theft, etc).

            But a company like Microsoft, you’re going to have a hard time convincing me it’s going to ruin the company. The history of HIPAA violations and their fines tell a very different story.

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            You’re right they don’t, but only for covered entities which MS is not in any shape or form

            It’s just like when Grindr or whatever leaked people’s STD status, they nor MS are a medical provider or “covered business entity”

            HIPAA is an ok privacy law, but it is not the all supreme health privacy law you think it is

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            You should read up on anyone even coming close to being beholden to those penalties, because they absolutely do fuck around when its corporations.

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        Consumer PCs are almost certainly not covered entities under HIPAA, nor is Microsoft in its role as an OS provider.

        Even then, if this whole thing were to result in an inappropriate disclosure by a covered entity, the organization that processes the data would be liable, not Microsoft.

        That’s like blaming the building contractor because you left the door unlocked and someone came in and stole your cat.

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          People give HIPAA way too much credit all the time, it’s fairly strict on who actually falls under it.

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    Linux can run from a USB stick to try it out before committing to a full install.

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      Not to be that guy but I cold-turkey switched daily driver and I cannot believe I didn’t do it earlier. Total amateur “copy-paster” and the only thing I sometimes can’t get working are pirated games. Steam changed everything for gaming.

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        I did the same. To add to the cliche, I went nuclear and jumped into Arch. Games were my biggest concern, but I’ve had zero issues with games, minor issues with Nvidia, but if I’d have gone with a stable distro, it would have been an easy transition. I’m confident that anyone who can use Windows even semi functionally, can transition to something like Mint with minimal issue. Other than no local MS office apps, I bet most people would assume it’s a new Windows release.

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          I switched my kids’ PCs to Pop!_OS and other than “icons moving” yeah they didn’t notice.

          Especially when they mostly use Firefox and Steam, and those are exactly the same.

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    To use Recall, users will need to purchase one of the new “Copilot Plus PCs” powered by Qualcomm’s Snapdragon X Elite chips, which include the necessary neural processing unit (NPU).

    Well, I guess I’m keeping my current notebook for the unforseeable future.

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      Fear not! Eventually you’ll be forced to take an update that will bring this blessing to you:

      On devices that are not powered by a Snapdragon® X Series processor, installation of a Windows update will be required to run Recall.

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      Actually, if this is the requirement, then this means our data isn’t leaving the device at all (for this purpose) since everything is being run locally.

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        Unless there’s a “database failure” that would resurface screenshots from your PC on Microsoft’s cloud, or anything like that. I mean, its too many lines of code, what if something happened and oops, the local data was uploaded to your Onedrive, my bad, keep using our products, this will never happen again we swear.

        The only way to be sure is not having it at all. Remember the CSAM filter Apple wanted to force on iOS? This is as bad as that.

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          Very true… what I meant to say was:
          […] then this means our data shouldn’t need to leave the device at all […]

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    I’m going to make a Linux distro that helps you forget everything you did on the computer. “Oh, man. I was drunk last night. Thank god BoxWineOS comes with the Neuralyzer program.”

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    Can I just continue to not sign in to a Microsoft account and be good? Seems like it’s all tied to that

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    The thing that annoys me with this kind of thing is that there’s so much tech like this that COULD be really useful if we had absolutely any trust in Microsoft and big tech at all.

    Like… data, data collection, ai, and big data could be so useful for general users, but instead of creating useful ui and features for users, they only suck up all our data to build nice charts for advertisers and feed all our data to ai that can help them train their advertising models to try and extract more money from us.

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      There’s a dozen apps for it, but I wouldn’t trust them to do a perfect job. At a bare minimum, you’d probably need to keep said app up to date at all times, and it’d need to be one that runs in the background or runs on every boot or something.

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    It’s funny. Security folks say how insecure Windows XP is, and how it becomes compromised within seconds/minutes of having an internet connection. It’s like Microsoft took that as a playbook challenge to repeat as an OOTB feature, instead of waiting for malware to do it.

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    I think Microsoft’s ultimate goal is to turn your computer into a locked-down console. Infested with data collection malware. And it won’t allow third-party apps ever.

    My next computer will be a dual-boot machine. I will use Windows ONLY for gaming. No personal info or activity on that partition at all. And I’ll use Linux to get sh*t done.

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      Steam had been making Linux pretty darn good for gaming too, even for games that are technically Windows only.

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    So if it’s “AI”, and it’s remembering what I do on my computer, does that mean it’s going to hallucinate about what I did on my computer?