• ampersandrew@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Yes, I know, Fortnite bad, but this is a big deal. The way we got here is often embarrassing, but this is a major step toward tearing down walled garden ecosystems.

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      2 days ago

      I mean…do we want to tear it down?

      Apple is apple. They don’t make false claims about how walled off they are.

      Android is android. And for people who want to strip out all the google stuff, you can. And you can use F-Droid exclusively.

      But look at the typical apple user. Do you think they’re going to be happy without the apple experience?

      Some things are for you, other things are NOT for you. Letting both exist is an option.

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        But look at the typical apple user. Do you think they’re going to be happy without the apple experience?

        The Apple experience = locked down devices? If people (and Apple) stopped fearmongering about “security” or whatever, yeah they would, or at worst they wouldn’t care. I’d certainly welcome being able to publish apps on my terms, and being able to install what I want.

        Some things are for you, other things are NOT for you. Letting both exist is an option.

        That’s exactly the point. You don’t have to use the parts of a theoretical more open ecosystem if you don’t want to, you can keep using exclusively the official Apple stuff. But it creates more choice for the user if it exists.

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        I mean…do we want to tear it down?

        Pretty sure we do.

        Some things are for you, other things are NOT for you. Letting both exist is an option.

        So you agree it’s good Fortnite now exists on iOS? Apple users get more options?

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        2 days ago

        But look at the typical apple user. Do you think they’re going to be happy without the apple experience?

        Oh my God, they’re going to have to make decisions for themselves!? The horror!

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        Yes, we want to tear it down. This is a company that was taking a revenue share of any purchase made on their device, whether or not they incurred a cost in facilitating it. It’s universally bad for consumers. It’s why game prices on consoles don’t have competition like they do on PC, and it’s responsible for consumers feeling lock-in to an ecosystem, feeling as though they can’t respond to a bad product by moving to the competitor.

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          1 day ago

          by moving to the competitor

          That’s where I am with the Xbox. I’m pretty happy with it and don’t want to switch over, but the massive digital catalogue I’ve accrued would make me really hesitant if they start shitting it up.

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            18 hours ago

            It helps that it’s trending towards being a pre-built PC more and more, and I do think that will help in some regard. If the PC and Xbox versions are able to be the same, then dev costs go down, and you get a pretty solid idea of what a good lower-to-mid tier spec PC can do and optimize for that. It also would hopefully mean that more and more catalog becomes playable on PC, but who knows how far back that would go. Maybe Microsoft would make an emulator that you log-in to for access to 360-onward games? May be extreme wishful thinking there tho lol

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        1 day ago

        Apple is apple. They don’t make false claims about how walled off they are.

        That’s doesn’t make it a good thing.