Useless. Time for the Social Democrats to form their own party.

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    This wasn’t the resistance we were looking for. The Dems picked a subject that wasn’t particular to this President.

    Intentionally wasted impeachment effort. Green is the bad guy here, I wonder what he was thinking. AOC was doing the job of opposition, getting people to focus on the bombing and think about its legitimacy

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      What are they wasting? Time spent on the ‘big beautiful bill’ that they have no say in?

      Losing an impeachment vote doesn’t count against the next attempt. Attempting over and over would show they have spines and are at least attempting to hold Trump accountable. Not holding conservatives accountable is killing support for the Dems, actually trying would help to motivate the base.

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        It gives a talking point that the Dems are just frivolously trying to impeach Trump. If you say you don’t care about messaging, you’re not playing the game right.

        There’s been lots of impeachable shit that came before this that is truly outrageous and they should have impeached over (sending Marines to California?), but this is the same kind of action that many presidents, Democrat and Republican, have taken in the past and it hardly seemed it was going to be successful.

        Edit: It seems there’s a lot of people responding to this comment who thought everybody should rally behind Biden and Kamala, and didn’t think there was any blame to be laid on the Democrats for choosing terrible candidates.

        This is the same thing. Choose an impeachment battle that makes sense and is clear to everyone. Give people something to drink their teeth into, not the same “Taystee Wheat” you’ve been serving up and asking us to eat

        But hey, you keep on falling for their fake, token “opposition” and blaming people who don’t toe the line. How’s that working for you?

        Meanwhile, Zohran Mamdani.

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          It also gives a talking point that Dems are cowardly fucks who won’t even try if they think they might fail.

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          I want them throwing the goddamn spaghetti plate. I want to see them acting with the same urgent desire to prosecute and harass Trump as the Republicans have to prosecute anyone who isn’t a rich, white, straight man. Don’t go into the darkness with dignity; get unhinged, motherfuckers! The republic is already dead, we are marching into dictatorship, the time for high roading is over.