I’m honestly looking for any reasonable excuse I can to donate. I had a conversation with the devs back when they were begging across Lemmy a few months ago, and I told them that even if they just committed to stop moderating on .ml (while still running it as admins as their test instance), I’d set up a recurring donation.
But as we can clearly see from their ridiculous behavior recently as recorded on the various tankiejerk communities, they have not done so, and so I am not morally comfortable with sending them any money.
The ball’s in their court.
Edit: Remember, folks, that when baited by someone from lemmygrad or hexbear, the only correct response is to not engage.
First you people complained that donations were paying for lemmy.ml hosting. As soon as that was addressed you moved the goalposts to something different. Clearly it makes no sense to jump through hoops for people who are never going to donate anyway.
Of the two us us Dessalines is the one who needs funding the least, he was fine with the previous donation amount of 1000 Euros per dev. Im the one who created the call for donations because I have two small children to feed. So whether you donate or not isnt going to change Dessalines’ mind at all.
The way I see it funding for Lemmy development is entirely separate from lemmy.ml moderation. That is something for the local admins and users to decide, and they are happy with the status quo.
Why are you making this up when you can literally go back and reread our conversation? I’d do it myself just to copy/paste the whole conversation here, but it was on my lemm.ee account and in the lemmy.ee “Lemmy needs more donations” thread so I can’t access it anymore. Feel free to do so - I have nothing to hide.
Being this disingenuous isn’t winning you any points.
Edit: Hell, I’m the one who gave ground here. My original stance was that you needed to give up all association with .ml entirely, and I backed off of that position when I heard how necessary it was as a dev instance.
I’m practically bending over backward here to give you money, and you just won’t let me.
Sorry I talked with many dozens of people about this topic and dont remember what you specifically said. In my head it all got mixed together into a single conversation.
The way I see it, funding for Lemmy development is an entirely separate issue from the moderation of lemmy.ml. The moderation for an instance should only be decided by its local admins and users. Imagine lemmy.ml users going around and saying that lemmy.zip must change this or that thing. You would tell them to mind their own business, and with good reason.
I found your reply now, here it is. You were asking for lemmy.ml donations to be separate from other donations. This was already addressed long ago, see here.
I mean you can always find an excuse not to donate
There are other projects. Lemmy isn’t the only activity pub app.
I’m honestly looking for any reasonable excuse I can to donate. I had a conversation with the devs back when they were begging across Lemmy a few months ago, and I told them that even if they just committed to stop moderating on .ml (while still running it as admins as their test instance), I’d set up a recurring donation.
But as we can clearly see from their ridiculous behavior recently as recorded on the various tankiejerk communities, they have not done so, and so I am not morally comfortable with sending them any money.
The ball’s in their court.
Edit: Remember, folks, that when baited by someone from lemmygrad or hexbear, the only correct response is to not engage.
First you people complained that donations were paying for lemmy.ml hosting. As soon as that was addressed you moved the goalposts to something different. Clearly it makes no sense to jump through hoops for people who are never going to donate anyway.
I don’t know what other people said. My problem has always been that the donations pay for Dessalines to be everything he claims to hate about reddit.
Of the two us us Dessalines is the one who needs funding the least, he was fine with the previous donation amount of 1000 Euros per dev. Im the one who created the call for donations because I have two small children to feed. So whether you donate or not isnt going to change Dessalines’ mind at all.
Maybe talk to him about his behavior then, and how it impacts you.
The way I see it funding for Lemmy development is entirely separate from lemmy.ml moderation. That is something for the local admins and users to decide, and they are happy with the status quo.
Why are you making this up when you can literally go back and reread our conversation? I’d do it myself just to copy/paste the whole conversation here, but it was on my lemm.ee account and in the lemmy.ee “Lemmy needs more donations” thread so I can’t access it anymore. Feel free to do so - I have nothing to hide.
Being this disingenuous isn’t winning you any points.
Edit: Hell, I’m the one who gave ground here. My original stance was that you needed to give up all association with .ml entirely, and I backed off of that position when I heard how necessary it was as a dev instance.
I’m practically bending over backward here to give you money, and you just won’t let me.
Sorry I talked with many dozens of people about this topic and dont remember what you specifically said. In my head it all got mixed together into a single conversation.
The way I see it, funding for Lemmy development is an entirely separate issue from the moderation of lemmy.ml. The moderation for an instance should only be decided by its local admins and users. Imagine lemmy.ml users going around and saying that lemmy.zip must change this or that thing. You would tell them to mind their own business, and with good reason.
I found your reply now, here it is. You were asking for lemmy.ml donations to be separate from other donations. This was already addressed long ago, see here.
Well if you do want to throw donation money anywhere, there is always Piefed now.
Wouldn’t that be bribery?