• dugmeup@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    Nope. His dream is no war and his country made whole as guaranteed by multiple treaties.

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      9 days ago

      Only according to western “media” that can’t be trusted. It’s a Nazi regime, they thrive on war

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        So why the fuck did Russia need to be the one to start it.

        If they thrive on war. Surely they would have been invading russian territory. Rather then sitting and Following the treaties with Russia. That Russia chose to break and invade Ukraine.

        It’s a fucking stupid argument.

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            Why recent. Do you think treaties expire when your friends don’t like them any more.

            They have not been first to break an international treaty they signed since leaving the USSR. Russia broke several when they invaded Ukraine.

            Nations that thrive on war tend to invade other nation. They do not wait for other to invade them.

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              Ukraine was constitutionally and treaty-bound to neutrality. That was one of the conditions for their independence. They violated that condition in 2014 when they decided to become an anti-Russia NATO proxy. They invaded and bombed the Donbass republics which declared independence following an illegal and unconstitutional Nazi coup in 2014. They took away the constitutionally protected status of the Russian language and have systematically repressed its use and persecuted its speakers.

              Russia acted strictly according to international law fulfilling their humanitarian obligation to protect the people of the Donbass from genocide, who were under attack and formally requested Russia’s assistance according to the legal right to collective self-defense enshrined in article 51 of the UN charter.

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                Ukraine never joined NATO. Inventing bullshit arguments about friendships with nations you dislike. In no fucking way counts as a treaty violation. Invading another fucking nation dose.

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                  The illegitimate post-2014 Kiev regime changed the Ukrainian constitution to include an explicit statement of intent to join NATO. NATO has been courting Ukraine since at least 2008. NATO pumped Ukraine full of weapons and military training. The anti-Russian Neo-Nazi junta that illegally seized control of the country after the Maidan coup severed trade and diplomatic ties with Russia in favor of NATO and the EU. Kiev agreed to host NATO troops and bases on Ukrainian territory. All of this happened before Russia intervened in 2022. All of these constitute a violation of their neutrality pledge.

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                    So after Russia invaded breaking it’s treaty commitment to respect the borders and sovereignty of Ukraine. Ukraine no longer followed it’s commitments under the broken treaty.

                    Yes that is the way things work.

                    Now maybe Russia should hand back the fucking nuke it got in return for agreeing to respect that soverinty.

                    Your argument are no more then trollinsh bollocks with zero merit.