TL;DR

  • Efforts like Graphene OS face increasing pressure from apps that refuse to run on non-standard Android.
  • The custom ROM project characterizes Google’s approach to device attestation as incomplete and flawed.
  • Graphene OS is prepared to take legal action if Google won’t let it pass Play Integrity checks.
  • towerful@programming.dev
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    7 months ago

    The only reason I stopped using grapheneOS was because Google contactless payment didn’t work.
    Loved everything else about graphene tho

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      7 months ago

      I’ve never used contactless on my phone, I already had a contactless debit card. Why are you, and others, using their phones to pay?

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        7 months ago

        There’s no need to carry your cards if you already have your phone.

        Also, unlike your wallet, if you lose it you can track it.

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        7 months ago

        Lazy.

        Just plain lazy.

        I already have my phone in hand in shops - shopping lists, reminders or even plain taking my mind off the shelves so I won’t buy unnecessary shit. Then I get to checkout and…my phone is already in hand. Just boop it and done. No need to dig out wallet from pocket and then dig out card from wallet.

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        7 months ago

        I’ve never used a contactless debit card. I already had a chip and pin debit card. Why are you, and others, using your contactless card to pay?

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          7 months ago

          My Chip+PIN card has an RFID chip. Standard in Germany. Why would I tell, much less trust, google with my banking. Why would I let them skim data and/or a percentage off the transaction. Why would I choose a system with spotty acceptance, whereas I can use my girocard everywhere. It also doubles as 2nd factor for online banking.

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          7 months ago

          I didn’t choose, my bank gave me a contactless card when my last chip and pin card expired (the card still has chip and pin which I use when contactless fails).

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        7 months ago

        the app hides the real numbers for the credit card and gives the POS a mock id to make the purchase. it’s harder to clone. also you need to unlock the phone for it to work it’s an extra layer of protection

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          7 months ago

          Giving a mock card sounds useful. I’ve looked into that for paying online but I couldn’t find an open source way to do it.

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        7 months ago

        I can create a virtual card before every trip, use it via my phone and then cancel it after the trip, never worrying if my card got skimmed anywhere for one.

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          7 months ago

          when you pay using the virtual wallet it automatically makes a mock id to the POS … at least in my country it does

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            7 months ago

            Ehhh I’m not sure how I got skimmed. Better safe than sorry now, a deleted card is pretty foolproof

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          7 months ago

          For some fucking reason there is zero option for this type of secure virtual card in my country. And I hate it. A friend got skimmed for over $1200 a couple months ago.

      • towerful@programming.dev
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        7 months ago

        I find it super convenient.
        Also, it doesn’t have a limit. Pretty sure I bought my last car with contactless on my phone, but that was years ago.