• snooggums@piefed.world
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    The assassination of Charlie Kirk threatens to embolden the far right and provide Donald Trump with a pretext for crushing dissent.

    Oh no, maybe he will use it as a pretext to declare war on a US city and name it after a WWII battle like Midway!

    Or maybe his administration will claim that filming federal enforcement is violence!

    Or maybe he will have US citizens detained by immigration enforcement based on racist profiling with the blessing of SCOTUS!

    Or maybe they were going to manufacture a crisis and this isn’t actually enabling anything they weren’t already doing.

    • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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      So what’s your position, that this political assassination on US soil of a man who merely SAID WORDS was a GOOD thing for reducing fascism in the world?

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          It’s not Charlie’s fault that there are tens or hundreds of millions of Americans that, like you, endorse political violence, and are eager to be told that it’s okay, it’s righteous, it’s the way forward. He didn’t create the audience, he merely exploited it for personal gain. You’re making him into some kind of whipping boy so that you don’t have to face the reality of the situation. Nothing has been accomplished and so much damage has been done to us all.

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            It’s not Charlie’s fault that there are tens or hundreds of millions of Americans that, like you, endorse political violence and are eager to be told that it’s okay

            He’s actually for political violence based on his own arguments. So you can say he contributed to it being okay.

            He didn’t create the audience, he merely exploited it for personal gain.

            And that makes him better, How?

            You’re making him into some kind of whipping boy so that you don’t have to face the reality of the situation. Nothing has been accomplished and so much damage has been done to us all.

            He was a whipping boy. He was a huge reason why Trump was elected. Something was accomplished yesterday, there’s on less fascist in this world, and MAGAs bullhorn was just silenced.

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              there’s one less fascist in this world

              That assassination may have been a turning point for some moderates towards the extreme :/
              It’s basically like trying to kill the Hydra.

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                How can they not see this. Whatever “good” they think is accomplished because there is “one less fascist in the world” is entirely overwhelmed by the negative consequences. But they don’t give a fuck. I think they are as traumatized as I am and they must cling to their bloodlust or they will experience emotions that they don’t want to have.

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            It’s not Mengeles fault he experimented on Jews. He just took advantage of the German hatred, right?

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            And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

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            Yea, I’m not going to do this with you. If you wanna be all high and mighty and disregard who he actually was to fit whatever argument you’re going to make, you can argue with yourself. The world is better with one less fascist and I don’t have the energy to deal with chucklefucks like you who suddenly care about what’s right and wrong.

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              Right, “suddenly.” I’m not a principled person. I just say these things because it’s so funny. Ha. Ha ha ha.

              Charlie said words. If you don’t think he should have been allowed to say those words, the remedy is to change the law, not shoot him in the throat. But you can’t change the law, because your entire fucking country are people like you and Charlie.