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morrowind@lemmy.ml to Fediverse@lemmy.worldEnglish · 10 months ago

Newgrounds is considering adding activitypub support but is concerned about hosting fees for serving images to millions of people

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Newgrounds is considering adding activitypub support but is concerned about hosting fees for serving images to millions of people

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morrowind@lemmy.ml to Fediverse@lemmy.worldEnglish · 10 months ago
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The creator of Newgrounds has considered adding ActivityPub support to join the fediverse but is worried it would make their hosting fees untenable by “serving files to millions of people on third party apps“. Can anyone with more knowledge on how this works help them? https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1537550/3#bbspost27933331_post_text Having Newgrounds on the Fediverse would be incredible. Newgrounds has a huge art community, many features not available on any platform and has been around the longest (1999) CC @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected]

Original link https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1537550/3#bbspost27933331_post_text

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  • nocturne@sopuli.xyz
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    10 months ago

    I missing the hamsters and dancing Jesus.

  • schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business
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    10 months ago

    Not to mention that fediverse software still loves to occasionally hug of death a server when you post links, heh.

    (Post federates to lots of servers, and lots of servers pull images/previews all at more or less once.)

    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Quick, someone post “Cascade” from Homestuck and bring down the entire fediverse.

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    TIL the flash animation I made in 2004 is still available on Newgrounds.

    https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/201157

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      I’m pretty sure you’re the most famous person to use Lemmy. Well besides Margot Robbie

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    TIL Newgrounds still exists.

    • doctortran@lemm.ee
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      Not only does it still exist, newgrounds is unique in that it is a long-running website from the early days that is still being run by the same person (never bought out or sold), still has no ads (despite funding issues), still has the same basic focus, still hosting the same content, and is still more or less exactly the same despite some UI changes.

      Granted part of that is there hasn’t been any real pressure on it, but still.

      Genuinely, it is the kind of thing that I would want to put behind glass, because it is an abnormality in this wasteland we call the internet. It’s this beautiful little corner that has been allowed to remain as it is, unmolested by the terrible bullshit around it.

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        It’s feels like it’s the only site where the algorithm doesn’t kill animators.

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      10 months ago

      I assume the success of Friday Night Funkin’ gave it some extra life.

      • empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        10 months ago

        There’s also a lot of porn

        • Scio@lemmy.world
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          10 months ago

          Friday Night Fuckin’ as well, then

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    10 months ago

    Can’t they just not allow anyone on their server? Like read-only while people talk about it from other servers?

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    10 months ago

    The Problems of Tomorrow, Today!

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      Oh man, I miss that shit so much heh heh

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    10 months ago

    but is concerned about hosting fees for serving images to millions of people

    People stopped caring about image bandwidth decades ago. Try wrangling a video-hosting problem, like PeerTube does.

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    Newgrounds would be awesome in the Fediverse tbh, would bring so much content (beyond politics and news).

    Image hosting seems to be super problematic with activity pub, especially with something pf Newgrounds’ size. I’m super invested in this, can’t wait to see where it’ll go.

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    So we need better federated hosting…

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        That makes total sense. And I would guess decentralized hosting or federated hosting couldn’t meet this need?

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      I’d love to be able to “seed” the fediverse through p2p hosting of some sort. I’d set aside 1 TB of storage and 20 MB/s for that.

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      • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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        Yeah I’ve thought a tiny bit about this but it gets dodgy with things like csam.

        How do we address some one uploading stuff that would get you arrested?

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          Probably arrange it such that not one person/server knows what the stored bytes are. There can be a server where the bytes/blocks get reconstructed where one can check for the bad stuff.

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          There’s gotta be some kind of limited liability for this kind of thing. I mean, banks wouldn’t be liable if someone put csam in a safe deposit box or (assuming they don’t x-ray packages) UPS shipping csam in a sealed package. I think there just needs to be reasonable safeguards against it but I don’t know if any of that is built into the software.

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    Hell Yeah, Newgrounds is blocked in my country. But if they added Activity Pub it will solve the problem for me.

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      What country blocks new grounds of all things?

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        India

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    “Millions of people” if only…

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      Mastodon has a couple million ADUs

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