• CannonFodder@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    Obviously not. It’s the fault of Trump voters and those who failed to vote for Harris. Thats it. It was pretty clear how bad Trump would be. So there’s no excuses. If you didn’t vote to stop Trump, you own Trump.

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      16 hours ago

      Voters wanted change and the Democrats ran as the status quo for the third presidential election in a row. Each time picking the most unpopular person they possibly could and then blaming voters when they failed. Those voters did support the Democratic nominee in Biden despite further degeneracy and they did nothing with it. There is not a single chance that the Republicans were not going to get in there and try to put the fix in on elections with these people in charge.

      We needed a new deal and we got plutocratic right and a Democratic president further right than George HW Bush.

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        55 minutes ago

        If voters (or those who didn’t bother) couldn’t see that the status quo was much better than Trump, then they chose stupidly and it’s their fault. The democrats put out a candidate that was better than Trump, that’s all that should matter.
        The reason democrats didn’t win was because of the vast right wing media system that biases and spins everything and too many idiotic voters who fall for it. If the democrats went more radical left, that same right wing media system would still do its thing to manipulate the stupid voters, but it would also turn off some intelligent centrists from supporting the democrats. Any non idiotic left wing people would already be voting democrat over Trump. But, alas there are too many idiots in the U.S. and that is why we now have trump and his handlers destroying the country.

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          27 minutes ago

          We knew the Electoral situation going in. And your argument that Americans would be turned off by reform and would be attracted to the status quo is just laughably wrong, straight from the donkey’s ass.

          Establishment arguments to shift the blame so they can stay in control of the party. Even though it would not justify letting them stay in control if it was even true. They insist on electing candidates that can’t win and running on a strategy that cannot reliably win even against one of the most unpopular politicians to ever run. Right ahead of whoever the Democrats nominate