.ml user and cherrypicking, name a more common duo
Edit: btw, they specifically stated China does less social welfare. Maybe if you actually read instead of just being a differently colored MAGA, maybe you’d have caught that.
China has universal healthcare and universal public housing, lol. China spends less per capita on social welfare, but that’s because things are cheaper and more efficient in China (a shot of insulin doesn’t cost $1000 for example).
I was born in mainland China. My parents grew up in Guangdong Province. Its actually not that much different from the US. And everything is paid out-of-pocket. I don’t think there’s even a “Medicare” for older people, that along with most older people from many places having no retirement income (other than their own savings), and even children / young people with disabilities don’t get any “Medicare”, not SNAP, for that matter, its not a fun place to be in.
I mean at one point I was reading all these supposed “free healthcare” comments about PRC, and I asked myself did I remember it wrong?, I asked my mother about the “free” healthcare thing, and she told me no, that’s not a thing.
Very interesting, what period of time was this? Because universal healthcare has rapidly developed in just the last 5-10 years. According to the WHO 95% of China now has basic health coverage, free of charge.
(And yes there are going to be gaps in the system, there will be gaps in any rapidly-developing universal program)
So I just asked my dad, the current system is basically like the US. Most people get insurance from their employers. Older people have a very bare-bones “medicare”/insurance that they pay one a year for access to it. Health insurance barely covers anything, like no dental coverage for example.
As for retirement, most people didn’t have them before, now, more and more people have it. Its like ¥100-¥200 a month or something. Some people still don’t have it. All depends on the job. Like a teacher/professor would probably have these, others might not.
As for unemployment benefits, again, it depends, its job-by-job basis, many won’t have it.
Basically its like the US’s healthcare system from what I can understand. (English is my primary language so I might not have been understanding the full conversation in Cantonese)
We immigrated to the US around 2010, I still have aunts in China, so I could ask my parents to ask them about the current situation.
According to the WHO 95% of China now has basic health coverage, free of charge.
Note it says “basic health coverage”, the wording implies that those that are not considered “basic”/essentialgets excluded. Think of the US and the ACA thing. How good really is ACA? Certainly very far off from Norway.
No, it doesn’t — if you’re about to try and say there isn’t a homeless problem in China I’m going to laugh at you and tag you with ‘.ml user alt account’.
Actually, I think I’m going to do it anyway — most of what you’ve said here is just wrong, can’t speak on insulin prices because I don’t typically waste my time for long on throwaway ‘debates’.
What’s up with the obsession with “.ml”? I’ve literally never heard of or used this site except from annoying people who are get triggered and accuse people for saying facts they don’t like.
Here’s the WHO (not exactly a communist organization) on Chinese universal healthcare:
Universal health coverage (UHC) is a vision where all people and communities have access to quality health services where and when they need them, without suffering financial hardship. It includes the full spectrum of services needed throughout life—from health promotion to prevention, treatment, rehabilitation, and palliative care—and is best based on a strong primary health care system.
The concept of UHC is much in line with the goal of China’s Health Reform since 2009, which aims to provide establish a universal basic health care system providing safe, effective, convenient and affordable health services to all by 2020.
You don’t have to like China, but underestimate your enemy at your own peril.
.ml user and cherrypicking, name a more common duo
Edit: btw, they specifically stated China does less social welfare. Maybe if you actually read instead of just being a differently colored MAGA, maybe you’d have caught that.
China has universal healthcare and universal public housing, lol. China spends less per capita on social welfare, but that’s because things are cheaper and more efficient in China (a shot of insulin doesn’t cost $1000 for example).
“Universal Healthcare” =/= “Free Healthcare”
I was born in mainland China. My parents grew up in Guangdong Province. Its actually not that much different from the US. And everything is paid out-of-pocket. I don’t think there’s even a “Medicare” for older people, that along with most older people from many places having no retirement income (other than their own savings), and even children / young people with disabilities don’t get any “Medicare”, not SNAP, for that matter, its not a fun place to be in.
I mean at one point I was reading all these supposed “free healthcare” comments about PRC, and I asked myself did I remember it wrong?, I asked my mother about the “free” healthcare thing, and she told me no, that’s not a thing.
Very interesting, what period of time was this? Because universal healthcare has rapidly developed in just the last 5-10 years. According to the WHO 95% of China now has basic health coverage, free of charge.
(And yes there are going to be gaps in the system, there will be gaps in any rapidly-developing universal program)
So I just asked my dad, the current system is basically like the US. Most people get insurance from their employers. Older people have a very bare-bones “medicare”/insurance that they pay one a year for access to it. Health insurance barely covers anything, like no dental coverage for example.
As for retirement, most people didn’t have them before, now, more and more people have it. Its like ¥100-¥200 a month or something. Some people still don’t have it. All depends on the job. Like a teacher/professor would probably have these, others might not.
As for unemployment benefits, again, it depends, its job-by-job basis, many won’t have it.
Basically its like the US’s healthcare system from what I can understand. (English is my primary language so I might not have been understanding the full conversation in Cantonese)
Its very far from Norway’s utopia.
We immigrated to the US around 2010, I still have aunts in China, so I could ask my parents to ask them about the current situation.
Note it says “basic health coverage”, the wording implies that those that are not considered “basic”/essentialgets excluded. Think of the US and the ACA thing. How good really is ACA? Certainly very far off from Norway.
Lol no, it isn’t free and it sucks.
No, it doesn’t — if you’re about to try and say there isn’t a homeless problem in China I’m going to laugh at you and tag you with ‘.ml user alt account’.
Actually, I think I’m going to do it anyway — most of what you’ve said here is just wrong, can’t speak on insulin prices because I don’t typically waste my time for long on throwaway ‘debates’.
What’s up with the obsession with “.ml”? I’ve literally never heard of or used this site except from annoying people who are get triggered and accuse people for saying facts they don’t like.
Here’s the WHO (not exactly a communist organization) on Chinese universal healthcare:
https://www.who.int/china/health-topics/universal-health-coverage
You don’t have to like China, but underestimate your enemy at your own peril.