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Bro all I am trying to tell you is communism does not inherently mean authoritarian dictatorship. Also if we care so much about how Marx defined communism and that that definition is all that matters then no, socialism and communism are the same thing because that is how he defined them. Lenin is who changed that. But since all we apparently care about is how Marx defined it I guess we can toss out Lenin’s adaptions (fine by me, I hate Lenin).
You gotta stop giving people so much authority. Marx didn’t invent communism, he just created the most popular interpretation and analysis of it. And other people have taken that and adapted and expanded it, Marx does not own the idea. There are hundreds of different ideas and adaptions to Marx’s ideas, if your whole perception of communism is based on Marx and the Marxist-Leninist versions you are working with a very narrow understanding of communism.
communism does not inherently mean authoritarian dictatorship
How does that work without fair elections?
Marx didn’t invent communism,
Maybe not, but his definition is the basis from which all others are derived. So any other form needs to be specified IMO.
I am very well aware that no 2 practical attempts at implementation are alike. Hell some of them aren’t anything more than simple dictatorships, like North Korea.
Dude you arent even debating me, when the fuck did I say there aren’t fair elections? You are literally hitting me with a loaded question. If thats the way this is going to go, then I’m done engaging with this cause you clearly don’t give a shit about having a mutual conversation.
Bro all I am trying to tell you is communism does not inherently mean authoritarian dictatorship. Also if we care so much about how Marx defined communism and that that definition is all that matters then no, socialism and communism are the same thing because that is how he defined them. Lenin is who changed that. But since all we apparently care about is how Marx defined it I guess we can toss out Lenin’s adaptions (fine by me, I hate Lenin).
You gotta stop giving people so much authority. Marx didn’t invent communism, he just created the most popular interpretation and analysis of it. And other people have taken that and adapted and expanded it, Marx does not own the idea. There are hundreds of different ideas and adaptions to Marx’s ideas, if your whole perception of communism is based on Marx and the Marxist-Leninist versions you are working with a very narrow understanding of communism.
How does that work without fair elections?
Maybe not, but his definition is the basis from which all others are derived. So any other form needs to be specified IMO.
I am very well aware that no 2 practical attempts at implementation are alike. Hell some of them aren’t anything more than simple dictatorships, like North Korea.
Dude you arent even debating me, when the fuck did I say there aren’t fair elections? You are literally hitting me with a loaded question. If thats the way this is going to go, then I’m done engaging with this cause you clearly don’t give a shit about having a mutual conversation.