Sure, pal
A true man of the people… looking out for average man, absolutely no vested interest in hyping ai to the moon.
Warns?
This is great!
Not if you only receive 40% of the wages too because the gains go to the capitalists.
Don’t worry, he will be saying the opposite after he dumps whatever stock he’s trying to pump.
So now it’s “AI” that should allow us to profit from the efficiency increases you assholes actively siphoned off for yourself for decades??
Why is it that every time they say stuff like this it always sounds like an advertisement.
“Our product is going to bring about the end of days, buy it now!!!”
Earlier this year, Geoffrey Hinton, dubbed the “Godfather of AI,” highlighted the severe wealth disparity that AI developments could generate.
“We’re talking about having a huge increase in productivity. So there’s going to be more goods and services for everybody. So everybody ought to be better off, but actually it’s going to be the other way around,” Hinton stated during a panel discussion. “And it’s because we live in a capitalist society.”
“And so what’s going to happen is: this huge increase in productivity is going to make much more money for the big companies and the rich, and it’s going to increase the gap between the rich and the people who lose their jobs. And as soon as you increase that gap, you get fertile ground for fascism,” he continued. “And so it’s very scary that we may be at a point where we’re just making things worse and worse.”
This seems spot-on to me. All you downvoters obviously didn’t read the article.
Far be it for me to point out that the “godfather of AI” has a vested interest in AI being seen as more capable than maybe it actually is. But more to the point we know that AI systems like loose on an environment cause absolute chaos and fail disastrously.
There was an experiment a couple of months ago where they tried to get an AI to run a small business and I think at one point it ended up sending emails to the FBI claiming it had been defrauded because a product it ordered didn’t instantly materialise.
Always feels like it’s less that ai can’t do the things we keep trying to make it do. But that we are acting like we have had another 20 years of development in the tech.
So everyone’s just playing make believe and pretending it’s 2045 in 2025.
Bill Gates is full of shit
He also partied with Epstein.
Always has been *astronaut meme *
Bill Gates a lucky autismo with a privileged upbringing that never gets mentioned. If he knew what he was doing, be would have nuked davos and the G7 decades ago
It’s common knowledge that his parent’s wealth opened doors for him.
privileged upbringing that never gets mentioned
I think you’re 20 or 25 years out of date on that one.
More like 40
There is a vital question coming up. When the machines do all the work, does that mean everyone eats? Or no one?
Right now it is “no one” roughly speaking. That must change. There is no future for anyone there, just nightmares unfolding and unfolding.
It‘s phrased „warns“ because it is just assumed that no one will eat. Because apparently that‘s a normal thing to assume in our society. That we‘ll all just starve to death soon.
I don‘t think we will but it‘s telling that a lot of rich and influential people do and are not only letting it happen but actively supporting it.
Because apparently that‘s a normal thing to assume in our society.
It’s just very difficult to think outside of society , to think of a working society without the organizing power of money and labor. And even more difficult to think about the path to get there.
…unless you have watched Star Trek and the like.
Well we are on our way to WW3 so perhaps we’ll get there.
The good news is that the guiding document for the AI robots will be called “How to Serve Man”. The bad news is it’s a cookbook. :)
Touche good sir! ))
Sounds good to me.
I get to keep the same salary and just use AI to make my work easier, right?
Right?
That’s what I do. Used it to replace a shitty boss and then use it to make my work easier. My new boss is so high up in the clouds he has no idea how much work I actually do and how long it takes, as long as whatever they want eventually gets done.
No clue why this article is being downvoted to hell. Is this not relevant to c/technology? 🤷🏻
Worked at Lowe’s last year. No AI is going to replace what any of us were doing except maybe making the scheduling lady’s life easier, but we would still need her.
People still need to buy household goods, need advice from experts, need help and labor in 1,000 ways that AI cannot replace.
Until we have relatively inexpensive, multipurpose robots, much of this talk is moot. Humans are the AR-15s of the animal kingdom. Not the best at anything, weak in many ways, but we’re reliable, tough and suited for many roles. I cannot imagine an AI powered robot that could work all the tasks I was faced with.
No clue why this article is being downvoted to hell.
The title has the word “AI” in it - the hivemind is practically trained to reflexively downvote and leave a mean comment anytime those two letters show up.
Fucking ridiculous around here. Seen 20-yo images, “Is this AI slop?!” It’s the cool kid thing to do now I guess.
“I’m so smart! I hate AI and can spot it anywhere!”
The Express is not a reliable source for information. It’s a shitty right-wing rag that just makes shit up.
The article presents a couple of different perspectives: Gates’ comments and Hinton’s counterpoints at the end. Maybe the downvotes are assuming it’s only promoting Gates’ perspective because they didn’t read it?
Most anti AI posts/comments get downvoted.
Probably because the bulk of people on here work in some shitty IT job that can easily be replaced by AI?
Or they think people who are anti AI are Luddites?
Who knows
Are we on the same website? Lemmy as a rule hates AI with a blind passion and will downvote anything that isnt frothing at the mouth hatred of it. Hence the downvotes on this post, people see it has AI in the title and isnt calling it slop or saying its cooking the planet and so it gets downvoted.
Uh, aren’t you two agreeing?
If we are, then I entirely misinterpreted them.
On re-reading it seems like thats quite possible! The first and second line seem to agree with me but the third is taking the opposite postion though so who knows.
I added the who knows so other people could chime in with their own opinions, I see you point though.
Usually who knows is added after two opposing suggestions
Microsoft can’t even make a good operating system anymore. I don’t trust their ability to make an operating system work on a weekly basis.
What’s that got to do with bill gates?
He’s still a huge influence on the company.
He used to be the CEO and M$ is pushing AI every way they can, regardless
I stopped to take a piss at an Arby’s once. Does that make me a cowboy?
No, but if started, and owned Arby’s in a monopoly position for years, and then left… for many years, you’d be blamed for the state of the burger business. (Especially if you bother to comment on it, like Gates is doing)
howdy pardner
Gee, Mikey. I think he likes you
He’s been out for years. While I can’t condone his methods in the late 90s (IE vs Netscape), he had nothing to do with the MSFT strategy in the current AI fad.
He hasnt been CEO for decades, but he was on the board up until 2020 when MS’s current AI strategy was being developed and executed. His current big push is energy projects, all intended as AI power sources, along with actual AI companies.
You’re conflating the two, but that’s exactly what he had to doggo with it. QED
1000000% correct
So it sounds like he’s saying no one will work enough to qualify for employer sponsored healthcare… Or at least be able to afford it.
So congrats, don’t ever get sick or lose a job! Plus your taxes are going up. Fuck you, you should have been a rich pedophile if you wanted differently!
Thanks for spending billions on malaria, asshole. If you would have paid your fucking taxes and supported the country we wouldn’t be in this mess.
Oh yeah, a politically unstable US will directly lead to local conflict between factions in African countries. Thanks to your malaria funding there’s now more rape victims and child soldiers than ever!
Don’t forget HIV, which the US is no longer supplying aid for
Problem - They’ll want to pay you for 0 days a week.
“Warns”
Disclaimer: * also a main proponent of said AI he definitely doesnt have stock invested in companies whose survival, and his paycheck, depend on. Absolutely 1000% facts being spatial here.
P.s. now please don’t delete my computer on me Mr Gates.
Gates is 1,000 miles beyond worrying about his “paycheck”. You’re thinking in terms of how you and I regard money. Gates don’t give a fuck. He’s really wants to do the right thing and leave a solid legacy. Call him greedy, and he certainly was in the day, but he’s no longer concerned with personal enrichment.
That does NOT mean I agree with him, just saying he’s not thinking and acting as you and I would. Neither one of us are 70-yo (his bd is Tuesday, drop him a card) multi-billionaires with household names and vast influence.
Gates don’t give a fuck. He’s really wants to do the right thing and leave a solid legacy. Call him greedy, and he certainly was in the day, but he’s no longer concerned with personal enrichment.
Money is a drug, rich people if anything are more greedy for each dollar they get than poor people because their tolerance goes up and they need more and more power/money to still get high.
Any amount of money billionaires like Gates steals from workers has to be just the beginning or else his high will peak and then fall and billionaires will not accept a cold brush with reality/mortality like that.
