• BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    Sometimes I forget that Italy, despite its history, is currently under control of far-right neo-fascists.

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      14 hours ago

      Why do you say despite its history? What about Mussolini? They had their own mini Hitler.

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        13 hours ago

        Mini? Excuse me, I’ll have you know that our own fascist leader actually invented the term fascism, was in power before Hitler and for a longer period.

        I won’t have you besmirch our glorious history of oppression like that.

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      18 hours ago

      Australia and UK are at the forefront of Internet ID control and both are Labor/Labour party led.

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        14 hours ago

        To say that the UK is currently Labour led is like saying Germany from 1933 - 1945 was run by socialists (national socialists as it were).

        Their name means fuck all when their actions say the opposite.

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          Labour (at least in the UK, I don’t know about AU) is not a socialist party, though at times it has had some socialist members and MPs.

          And, regardless of that, there have been numerous socialist and social-democratic parties that have been authoritarian, not just the center-left. Left/right and authoritarian/non-authoritarian are independent dimensions.

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            The Labour Party is a democratic socialist party. It believes that by the strength of our common endeavour we achieve more than we achieve alone, so as to create for each of us the means to realise our true potential and for all of us a community in which power, wealth and opportunity are in the hands of the many, not the few, where the rights we enjoy reflect the duties we owe, and where we live together, freely, in a spirit of solidarity, tolerance and respect.

            -Labour Party Rule Book, clause IV.

            (I’m not claiming the PLP are democratic or socialists, merely pointing out that they are breaking their own rules, and they they publicly claim to be socialist)

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            10 hours ago

            Aye, that’s true. My point was just that to claim the UK is Labour party led (in contrast with Italy’s neo-fascists) doesn’t really work as a contrast because they’re not really contrasting. The UK’s current Labour party is authoritarian, pro-capital, pro-austerity, anti-welfare state, anti-immigrant, anti-freedom of expression, anti-protest, anti-democracy, pro-Trump, and (indirectly) pro-Farage.

            They’re not the Labour party any more (although that’s been obvious since 1997 when they rebranded as New Labour) but to those who don’t follow UK politics they still have the marketing of socialists, of pro-welfare state, of being pro-democracy and pro-worker. That is not the case, and they probably have more in common with Meloni’s Brothers of Italy, neo-fascist party, than they do with 20th century Labour from which they are so closely associated.

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          13 hours ago

          “No true Scotsman…”

          Which party, anywhere in the world, has been true to their word once in power?

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            11 hours ago

            The Labour Party had won a landslide victory at the 1945 general election, and went on to enact policies of what became known as the post-war consensus, including the establishment of the welfare state and the nationalisation of 20 per cent of the entire economy.[2] The government’s spell in office was marked by post-war austerity measures; the crushing of pro-independence and communist movements in Malaya; the grant of independence to India, Pakistan, Ceylon, and Burma; the engagement in the Cold War against Soviet Communism; and the creation of the country’s National Health Service (NHS).

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attlee_ministry

            A number of liberalising social reforms were passed through parliament during Wilson’s first period in government. These included the near abolition of capital punishment, decriminalisation of sex between men in private, liberalisation of abortion law and the abolition of theatre censorship. The Divorce Reform Act 1969 was passed by Parliament (and came into effect in 1971). Such reforms were mostly via private member’s bills on ‘free votes’ in line with established convention, but the large Labour majority after 1966 was undoubtedly more open to such changes than previous parliaments had been.

            The franchise was also extended with the reduction of the voting age from twenty-one to eighteen in 1969.[1]

            While condemning racial discrimination (and adopting legislation to make it an offence)

            Education held special significance for a Labourite of Wilson’s generation, in view of its role in both opening up opportunities for those from working-class backgrounds and enabling Britain to seize the potential benefits of scientific advances. Under the first Wilson government, for the first time in British history, more money was allocated to education than to defence.[2]

            One notable effect was the first entry of women into university education in significant numbers. More broadly, higher education overall was significantly expanded

            Wilson also deserves credit for grasping the concept of an Open University, to give adults who had missed out on higher education a second chance through part-time study and distance learning.

            Campaigns were also launched by the government to encourage people to take up means-tested benefits to which they were entitled to.[9] For instance, a publicity campaign launched by the government increased the fraction of children eligible to get free school meals.[10]

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_government,_1964–1970

            Although the 1974–1979 Labour Government faced a number of economic difficulties, it was nevertheless able to carry out a broad range of reforms during its time in office. During Harold Wilson’s final premiership, from 1974 to 1976, a number of changes were carried out such as the introduction of new social security benefits and improvements in the rights of tenants. In March 1974, an additional £2 billion was announced for benefits, food subsidies, and housing subsidies, including a record 25% increase in the state pension. Council house rents were also frozen. Council house building continued on a substantial scale, although there was now a greater emphasis on modernising older properties rather than replacing them with new ones. That year, national insurance benefits were increased by 13%, which brought pensions as a proportion of average earnings “up to a value equivalent to the previous high, which was reached in 1965 as a result of Labour legislation.” In order to maintain the real value of these benefits in the long term, the government introduced legislation which linked future increases in pensions to higher incomes or wages.[10] In 1974–1975, social spending was increased in real terms by 9%. In 1974, pensions were increased in real terms by 14%, while in early 1975 increases were made in family allowances. There were also significant increases in rate and rent subsidies, together with £500 million worth of food subsidies.[11]

            To help those with disabilities, the government introduced an Invalid Care Allowance, a Mobility Allowance, a Non-Contributory Invalidity Pension for those unable to contribute through national insurance, and other measures. To combat child poverty, legislation to create a universal Child Benefit was passed in 1975 (a reform later implemented by the Callaghan government).[13] To raise the living standards of those dependent on national insurance benefits, the government index-linked short-term benefits to the rate of inflation, while pensions and long-term benefits were tied to increases in prices or earnings, whichever was higher.[14]

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_government,_1974–1979

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              I heard good things about Labour post war (from Gary’s Economics) but put it down to war recovery.

              Didn’t know about the other terms, thanks. That’s quite a list of achievements.

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              Here in Australia we saw a bigotted Eddie Booth in BBC’s Love Thy Neighbour(1972-1976). He was a fanatical Labour supporter. What was that about?

              Edit: That was the joke, says AI: “The show’s humor relied on the irony of Eddie’s political alignment versus his personal, racist attitudes.”

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    If we set aside the privacy nightmare, consider this.

    Teens wont stop searching for porn. Would you rather they find it on not-moderated sites, that might also consist of illegal content? Or might consists of nudes from people than didnt consent to their picture being online?

    Everything is just dumb about this.

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      True, it’s like the war on drugs, but drugs that can be perfectly copied infinite times and fully shared over the internet.

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        and not to mention, the tools required to create it (maybe not the best examples, but still) are already in the possession of virtually everybody.

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      yes you’re right but you and I both know they aren’t concerned about that because going back to your first sentence that’s what this is really about but masked as a “won’t anyone think of the children” so it’s easier to swallow (no pun intended)

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        At least in the EU they will implement a verification system, meaning you only have to verify with the official government, and then you can use a anonymised token that gives the porn sites only the age.

        It’s not perfect, but it’s far better than everything else suggested.

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          23 hours ago

          the recent California law seems to be better. what it requires is the parent to be able to configure the age for an OS account. browsers can then check the age bracket, and enforce the limit instead of having the website do it.