• katy ✨@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    2 days ago

    i mean if you’re staying on 14.04 you should at least cough up some money so they can keep maintaining it. like seriously

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      1 day ago

      Totally agree with that. What I have a problem with is withholding security updates on the latest LTS releases and only releasing them on ESM. That’s some scummy BS.

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          5 hours ago

          Back when I used Ubuntu, I would always get a message when I logged in telling me that security updates are available, but only through some kind of subscription-based program.

          It’s a big reason why I switched to Debian.

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            That’s not really what ESM updates are. There are the main and universe archives. The former are the core packages most Ubuntu installs are likely to want, while the latter are the many third-party packages Ubuntu offers easy access to. ESM is Canonical backporting security updates for those third-party packages to be compatible with the versions in each release’s universe archive, for 10 years - long after those third party devs have stopped supporting that Ubuntu release.

            So ESM matters if you are sticking with an ageing distro for compatibility reasons, but not if you’re a normal user who will upgrade to the next LTS release on schedule, or if you’re accessing more recent versions of those packages via other methods.

            In addition, ESM is free for personal use on up to 5 devices.

            It’s an extra layer of support above and beyond that offered by the package maintainers, not withholding stuff for paid users.

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              4 hours ago

              Why would it say that additional security updates are locked behind ESM even when I’m on a maintained version?