Ooh, what Land Rover? Those nasty leaky finnicky things look so awesome to me, I’m so tempted to get an L322 or a Disco 4. Preferably the L322 because V8 diesel, baby!
I was joking unfortunately, I don’t have a Land Rover. However a close relative of mine has a Discovery 2 (2.8L i5 Diesel, TD5 engine) and sure, it’s a damn solid and capable vehicle, when it’s running.
My god, doing any work on it requires custom tools (that relative fabricated his own spanner tool to hold the radiator fan while undoing its locking nut), a custom aftermarket computer to do basic functions you’d typically do via OBD (talking about the proprietary Nanocom, car isn’t compatible with OBD2) and extra effort for the odd engineering choices made (coolant system runs through the oil system, separating some part of the motor to service this immediately mixes your oil and coolant).
When that relative bought it I was pretty onboard with getting a Land Rover, maybe a Freelander or Discovery 1, but after his experiences I’d never touch one. No thank you, I will stick to my small Japanese cars.
Ah I think the newer ones are slightly better in that they have OBD2 and there’s an affordable aftermarket solution that gives near-dealership level capabilities… But the downside is all the electronics. But then another upside is that they get ZF transmissions which are widely used so easy to acquire maintenance and repair knowledge on. And the engines apparently aren’t TOO bad when it comes to the V8s. The V6 diesels have a worse rep, as does everything in the Ingenium family which… let’s just say plenty of people have brand new engines courtesy of JLR! Ironically they’re back to their most reliable engine being a BMW one, and now it’s the BMW V8 lol
If you’re into cars, you may find the YouTube channel LR Time, which is made by a lovely German couple that maintains and repairs their Land Rovers together.
Personally my current idea is to have a reliable daily driver (currently thinking of Lexus GS, the S190 generation with a V6 with no hybrid system in particular) and then a Land Rover that it’s OK if it’s down for a couple of weeks or even months because I can just drive the other car. I do my own repairs, so I’ve maintained plenty of cars that people would think to be money pits, without going bankrupt on account of any of them.
Want to get rid of my Audi, it leaks oil somewhere between the engine and transmission and I ain’t taking that transmission out, fuck that. It’d go something like “oh while I’m in here, let’s replace the chain tensioners and guides” and “oh, let’s also replace these gaskets” and “hmm well the starter is pretty old and access is good right now, let’s replace that too” and then “oh look, it’s been 2 months and 2000€ worth of parts since I picked it apart and it’s my only god damn car” lol
if there’s no oil under it, then how do you know there’s oil innit?
You leave my Land Rover’s proprietary oil check system out of it!
Ooh, what Land Rover? Those nasty leaky finnicky things look so awesome to me, I’m so tempted to get an L322 or a Disco 4. Preferably the L322 because V8 diesel, baby!
I was joking unfortunately, I don’t have a Land Rover. However a close relative of mine has a Discovery 2 (2.8L i5 Diesel, TD5 engine) and sure, it’s a damn solid and capable vehicle, when it’s running.
My god, doing any work on it requires custom tools (that relative fabricated his own spanner tool to hold the radiator fan while undoing its locking nut), a custom aftermarket computer to do basic functions you’d typically do via OBD (talking about the proprietary Nanocom, car isn’t compatible with OBD2) and extra effort for the odd engineering choices made (coolant system runs through the oil system, separating some part of the motor to service this immediately mixes your oil and coolant).
When that relative bought it I was pretty onboard with getting a Land Rover, maybe a Freelander or Discovery 1, but after his experiences I’d never touch one. No thank you, I will stick to my small Japanese cars.
Ah I think the newer ones are slightly better in that they have OBD2 and there’s an affordable aftermarket solution that gives near-dealership level capabilities… But the downside is all the electronics. But then another upside is that they get ZF transmissions which are widely used so easy to acquire maintenance and repair knowledge on. And the engines apparently aren’t TOO bad when it comes to the V8s. The V6 diesels have a worse rep, as does everything in the Ingenium family which… let’s just say plenty of people have brand new engines courtesy of JLR! Ironically they’re back to their most reliable engine being a BMW one, and now it’s the BMW V8 lol
If you’re into cars, you may find the YouTube channel LR Time, which is made by a lovely German couple that maintains and repairs their Land Rovers together.
Personally my current idea is to have a reliable daily driver (currently thinking of Lexus GS, the S190 generation with a V6 with no hybrid system in particular) and then a Land Rover that it’s OK if it’s down for a couple of weeks or even months because I can just drive the other car. I do my own repairs, so I’ve maintained plenty of cars that people would think to be money pits, without going bankrupt on account of any of them.
Want to get rid of my Audi, it leaks oil somewhere between the engine and transmission and I ain’t taking that transmission out, fuck that. It’d go something like “oh while I’m in here, let’s replace the chain tensioners and guides” and “oh, let’s also replace these gaskets” and “hmm well the starter is pretty old and access is good right now, let’s replace that too” and then “oh look, it’s been 2 months and 2000€ worth of parts since I picked it apart and it’s my only god damn car” lol