• Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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      He literally gave the republicans what they wanted in exchange for a vote that would make zero material difference in the lives of his constituents.

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        He is the leader, but couldn’t or wouldn’t whip his party to hold the line, and defended the perfidious weasels who caved.

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        What the fuck are you talking about? NO HE DID NOT. He was NOT one of the Democrats who voted to end the shut down.

        You know being progressive isn’t an excuse to be downright dishonest, right?

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          OK, if he didn’t approve of their votes, what has he done to punish the democrats who did? Nothing at all? Weird.

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      please, there are two options here, neither is good for Schumer. Either, he’s ineffectual party leader (whether by not knowing or not having control)… OR he orchestrated it to maintain “plausible” deniability.

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        I strongly suspect we have a significant number of Dino sleepers in Congress. Either outright sleepers or close enough to simply be purchasable or blackmailable.

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          I strongly suggest you’re an idiot that chooses to believe things without proof because it “feels right”. The EXACT same logic as Trumpers.

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        So you want a “party leader” to literally control all other politicians in their party? That’s representative democracy to you? What “control” is he supposed to have?

        What a stupid fucking argument. He doesn’t have a goddamn mind control device and Senators are individuals that make their own decisions.

        Just admit the truth. You criticize Schumer BY DEFAULT no matter what he does. That’s what this boils down to. He did exactly what you said you wanted him to do and now you’re moving the goalposts. You are literally incapable of admitting that he did something you agree with.

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          Yeah what a coincidence that all the representatives that broke the shutdown weren’t up for re-election next time. Very convenient! I’m sure there was zero coordination to decide who would break rank.

          But even if there wasn’t any of that, Chuck still bears responsibility for the failure of the shutdown even if you don’t want to admit it.

          Chuck led the shutdown. For better or for worse, it failed to accomplish its goal. Ultimately more responsibility falls on him as minority leader than anyone else. It’s not insane to want someone who coordinates a major gambit like a government shutdown to be capable of keeping the other representatives from breaking rank to accomplish the goal of the shutdown. Coordinating votes is literally a huge part of the job as majority or minority leader. It’s disingenuous to say expecting a party leader in the house to line up votes is contrary to representative democracy.

          Just admit the truth, you’ll suck Chuck off no matter what he does. You’re literally incapable of not sucking his dick