• Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    Calling this comic “bait” avoids engaging with what it is actually describing. Dismissing it as provocation reframes women’s experiences as manipulation instead of responding to the pattern being shown, and that reaction itself reinforces the point.

    The first panel matters. A lot of men say they want honesty, but what they often want is honesty that does not hurt. They like the idea of honesty, but do not understand how to use it to reflect, grow, or regulate themselves. When straightforward rejection is met with insults, anger, persistence, or contempt, people learn that honesty is unsafe. That is not gamesmanship. It is conditioning.

    Honesty only works in environments where it is not punished. In my marriage, honesty works because my wife knows it will not be used against her. That took years of consistent behavior to build. Outside of relationships with that level of trust, honesty can carry real social and emotional risk.

    Transparency is not cruelty, but it only functions as kindness when the person receiving it is capable of kindness. If you respond to honesty with hostility, you are not being harmed by truth. You are demonstrating that you cannot tolerate it.

    People who claim to value honesty but lash out when they hear it are not victims of dishonesty. They are teaching others to protect themselves. If you punish honesty, you should not be surprised when people stop offering it.

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      15 hours ago

      Very well said. It’s very much the same vibes as the bear in the woods. If you feel offended by a bear winning out, maybe you should ask yourself why that hurts, and understand why women would make that choice.

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        6 hours ago

        Yup. Imagine being personally offended by the man v bear drama. I’m confident that any woman I know would choose me specifically over the bear. Why would I feel slighted by the fact that they would, on average, choose the bear over a guy that isn’t me?

      • rumba@lemmy.zip
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        10 hours ago

        and understand why women would make that choice.

        I understand it fully, but am incapable of making the actual < bear guys change. If you try to reason with a chad, they just blow you off and walk away to hang out with other chads. The guys in the < bear circles are completely disconnected from my social circles.