• renzev@lemmy.world
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    Totally on board with the message, but, isn’t this, like, a direct violation of rule 2? Or are we going with the Gamer™ definition of “politics” where any stance that the community agrees with is inherently non-political?

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      I assume that rule 2 is more of a “don’t post memes that contain politicians”, since nearly everything that we say or do is political in some sense.

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    In the United States, President Eisenhower was a Republican and he used social programs to build the US interstate highway system and the infrastructure necessary for the predecessor to our modern airport infrastructure and space program.

    The highest top marginal tax rate during Dwight D. Eisenhower’s presidency (1953-1961) was 91%, which applied to the highest income bracket. (Note: In 1952 and 1953, the top rate was 92%, dropping to 91% for 1954–1963.)

    Much to today’s conservative’s dismay, President Eisenhower, being the Supreme Allied Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Force, was, dare I say, an axiomatic anti-fascist.

    He also warned against the “the disastrous consequences” (his words) of the entrenchment of the military industrial complex.

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    How slavery perpetuate? Turn some of the slaves into masters after getting them to point out which slaves are talking about killing the masters.

    No one hates like family.

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    Scroll down to see which lemmy users simp for the billionaire class. It won’t surprise you.

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    Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.

    Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.

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      They should be, but they wont because their wealth and our system allows them to make the taxation laws. There is only one realistic way out of this one.

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      I agree. My real abhorrence, however, is for the countless bootlickers who themselves live in near poverty yet loudly support their overlords in a sycophantic and unquestioning fashion. These class traitors, masquerading as real Americans are as culpable as the mentally deranged hoarders they prop up.

      I don’t feel like there’s a way to get through to these sheep-like collaborators, so it’s difficult to imagine anything will change in the near future.

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        they have been isolated by our mass media environment being hyper individualized, and gaslit into believing that their overlords and our overlords are a different set, and that we worship ours and the only counter is to empower theirs to combat ours. it will possibly take years of deprogramming to get them out of this. the best thing you can do is produce and disseminate propaganda that normalizes a true narrative: that left and right, male and female, islam and christianity and judaism, Black and white, rural and urban, gay and straight, are all distractions from up and down. how we fight our oppressors is through solidarity of the underclass. blaming people instead of helping people different from ourselves is how we lose.

        you won’t be able to reach all of them, but you will reach some of them. they really don’t know they’ve been tricked

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      Since it seems your use of obesity is causing some concern, perhaps it’s more appropriate to say “financial gluttony” as a more accurate phrasing?

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        A distinction without a difference. One is the process, the other its outcome.

        Obesity is a problematic state for an entity to be in, and attempts to reframe it as normal only manifest as harm.

        Where I see potential validity in criticism is the flawed definitions used for medical classification, but that’s an issue for the medical profession to reckon with and address.

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          With the silly reactions to my suggestion even though I have no issue with your wording, I feel stupid trying to hold a discourse here, but regardless…

          The distinction is gluttony is an active action, a decision, to consume more than needed, and a sin in religious contexts.

          Obesity is a state of being, correct, but can be out of a person’s control medically, I believe (I’m no doctor).

          I’m sure the rhetoric brigade will attack this as well, though. So much for quality interactions of the fediverse.

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            It can be out of a person’s control… and it’s still bad for them. Nobody here is saying that fat people are bad people, people are saying that fat is bad for people.

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      Financial obesity makes it seem like it’s the same as being fat, which doesn’t make sense because being fat is not a specific problem in the same way that being rich is.

      I’m sure you just mean it like “fat cat” but it’s a bizarre way to phrase it since it isn’t a good analogy.

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        I think it’s just meant as a way to reverse the usual assumption that it’s a desirable state, it puts it in terms that imply you have too much and it’s not good for you.

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    Billionaires simply cannot exist without their money coming from the exploitation of the “lower classes”

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      But they won’t drive you to become homeless because it stop you from paying them. They may keep you not rich but never is their intention to keep you so poor that they can’t get a penny from you.

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        Think of it as a remainder from a math problem. To keep a subservient middle class stretched across the lowest income brackets, you’re going to have a certain percentage of people who simply can’t afford to exist. They know that, it’s inherent to the system. It’s like that story, “The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas.” That’s why there’s never any serious interest in fixing the problem - it’s just going to keep happening because the system generates it, so housing everyone homeless right now wouldn’t solve homelessness in 10 or 20 years time, it’d start all over again. Systemic.

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          Agree with your point. But putting them in the homeless condition won’t serve the elite either. You don’t kill your milking cow. You need to keep them dependent yet capable to provide for you.

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            Even if paradoxically well paid workers would be better as they’d have more money to spend on things, billionares only focus on what immediately creates profits and that means paying their workers as low a wage as possible. When homelessness exists it means you HAVE to work to survive. You either take the job that pays you far less than the work is worth or you’re left on the streets.

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        No, they will. The underclass is the implied threat of violence against you for not surrendering your productivity and your own meagre scraps of surplus value to them as their slaves.

        It serves their purpose to make you homeless to ensure others continue to grind themselves to death.

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      I’ve never liked how the pyramid is arranged, as if the ones on top are living the ‘right’ way, or are ‘better’ somehow.

      It should be the other way around, with 8 billion people hanging to a ledge,  trying to improve the state of the world, while roughly 6.5k are throwing a tantrum, desperately clinging to the ankles of the masses, threatening to drag everything into the void if they can’t get their way.

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        as if the ones on top are living the ‘right’ way, or are ‘better’ somehow.

        Media literacy at an all time low. How on earth do you come to the conclusion that the people sitting on platforms literally weighing down on the lower classes are supposed to be better?

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        It’s not “higher = better” but the level above suppresses / deceives the level below. And the higher up you go, the fewer people inhabit a level.

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    Think about it. Many of them have enough money to end world hunger, build affordable housing, give healthcare to a poor country, etc. But they choose not to. All evil is an active choice.

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        it’s a task for all individuals.

        if I had a few billion I could either live in extravagant wealth, or end homelessness AND live in extravagant wealth.

        it’s a choice every single billionaire makes.

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        The rich take many steps to reduce their taxes to nothing on all levels, including lobbying, loopholes, offshore banking, shell corporations, money laundering, fraud, etc. It’s absolutely their individual fault for not contributing proportionately.

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    The best way a billionaire could spend their money is to lobby politicians to tax the rich.

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      Ah yes, the liberal solution that never works and is always temporary and doesn’t account for literally any systems of power.

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      I don’t like the long term effects of condoning corruption. That just makes politicians rent seek even more - and might incite jealousy in any politicians who missed out on that bribe. They’ll be back next election getting bribed by a bigger billionaire. I’d think better to try to reduce corruption.

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        In the current system you have to use money to lobby if you want your agenda enacted. One could argue that the only ethical thing you could pay to lobby would be enacting laws that make lobbying illegal.

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    100% tax for money after $500 Million. Also, tax corporations the full salary of the worker that is replaced by AI/automation/robotics to fund universal basic income.

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      Start a little earlier, personal income above 10 million gets a 90% tax without loopholes, and no tax until the cost of living (At least until the government sorts out universal basic needs.)

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        Don’t tax income, just tax wealth. Income gets bypassed currently because by no means are stocks money, but you can borrow against them. If stocks hav value to borrow against they are wealth though

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      the full salary of the worker that is replaced by AI/automation/robotics to fund universal basic income.

      ummm… just clumsily worded, or, not getting what universal basic income is? … sounds rather means tested and conditional there, how that’s worded.

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        I apologize if it could have been worded better.

        Here is my train of thought:

        By removing a job from the labor market, they are essentially removing an entire salary from the economy. Normally, that employee would be expecting to find another job. With entire industries are removing a crazy number of jobs, the economy would not be expected to be able to provide another job to all of those workers.

        I believe there should be a penalty to the company for eliminating jobs from the economy to slow down or prevent it from happening. I would tax the corporation the full salary of the job that they eliminated. We would use that money to fund for UBI.

        I understand UBI should not be conditional and it does not have to be in my example. However, there needs to be a way to fund it. Perhaps if the amount of money collected from the “ai tax” is not enough to provide UBI at the level that is fair to everyone, it should also be funded by the wealth tax that I also mentioned.

        I hope that clears it up.

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    taylor isnt one of the good ones, she just had good pr, up until she started partying with magat influencer.

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      Very true, she only had a career because her dad bought a record deal for her.

      Now, the best producers are writing sabrina carpenter’s songs (as she’ll be made into the next big thing) instead of Swift’s and the quality of writing, such as it was, has plummeted.

      Her old record label will now look to bring her down, to bring her fans over to their new projects and the wheel keeps turning until the next one. It’s not a coincidence that bad PR suddenly happens to an act after their record deal comes to an end.