“There are 15 million illegal aliens,” Miller said adding that “if each were given a full trial, deportations would take centuries”
White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller said in a video that went viral on Friday that undocumented immigrants are not entitled to due process protections when being removed from the United States, arguing that providing full legal proceedings would make deportations unworkable.
“There are 15 million illegal aliens,” Miller said. “If each were given a full trial, deportations would take centuries. They had no due process entering the country, and they are not entitled to it when being removed.”
Supreme Court precedent has long held that constitutional protections apply to noncitizens within U.S. territory. In Wong Wing v. United States (1896), the Court ruled that the Fifth Amendment’s due process clause protects noncitizens from arbitrary detention or punishment.
I’d prefer slowly lowering him into a wood chipper, feet first. After we feed him a ton of adrenaline so he can’t pass out.
Wood chipper! Wood chipper! Wood chipper! We throw a list of these cronies into the chipper on live tv things will change really quick
Nah go dangle first
Nah, he deserves a much more ironic punishment more suited to make him miserable.
He deserves to be forced to afford rent on minimum wage in an inner city surrounded by the people he hates.
How about he is forced to pick up trash alongside the highways, and the government makes very prominent, hyper-cool videos about it, just like they are making for people carted off to CECOT?
Most days he is picking up trash by the highway, and other days he has to work in Hispanic communities doing community service like working in a soup kitchen, bussing tables? Ideally, all he hears all day long is Spanish.
Nah, not painful enough
He could just be sent to CECOT or a random Sudanese prison. I think it’s still too good for him, but I’m willing to compromise.
In Venezuela
Vivisection is what he deserves. Then we may actually find out what the fuck is wrong with him before he dies in terror.
Watch Nuremberg. The doctor played my Ramek was a fucking fortune teller. Really scary shit when you read up on his research and his thoughts on Nazis, which seem to be pretty accurate nearly 100 years later.
Too fast.
I said slowly.
Still too fast.
I propose keeping him alive for decades to work in horrid toiling conditions 16 hours per day, 7 days a week. Sleeping where he works. One meal per day, unpleasant.
Diamond mines in Africa? Some repetitive manual factory labor?
He can earn the woodchipper after 4 decades…
Do you know what happens when someone’s feet never get dry? They start to dissolve kinda. Melt into the sock and shoe.
Probably unpopular opinion, but torturing our current problems wont prevent our future problems.
I disagree but it’s kind of a soft disagreement, as I don’t really know for sure. Obviously we’re all joking about the torture, and don’t condone violence…
But, we generally torture people of small crimes, or torture objectively innocent people. Think of the children in the African mines, still to this day.
The people who are causing all our problems never or rarely get tortured. And because they have all the wealth and power, they rarely get any form of punishment. They aren’t afraid of any consequences, generally.
So if we actually did start torturing them, and showing them they’re not invincible, would they change their ways?.. Idk but maybe.
Punishment as a deterrent hasn’t worked for the entirety of human civilization. Otherwise we would have fewer murders than other countries as we continue to be one of the few places that cling to capital punishment. There will always be monsters. I won’t argue that murder isn’t justified, but it also isn’t a “solution” in the strictest sense. Fear is what you’re talking about and it is a fickle master.
Ok fair enough, and you might be right, maybe even probably right. Idk. But I think this glosses over a point I was trying to make.
It is the extreme wealthy and powerful who essentially have little or no consequences, yet they are causing all of our problems and hardships and suffering. They have nothing to fear. They have little or no accountability.
“The history says it doesn’t work” isn’t enough for me. Are you talking about the 1400s when some peasants tortured and killed some malevolent king? I haven’t seen or heard anything like this to make enough of an impact where we can say “all the malevolent leaders are being killed by their peasants, yet they continue to treat their peasants cruelly, therefore torturing them doesn’t work”. Most historical torture was inflicted by the leaders, on the peasants, for various reasons.
The argument you are making, which I have heard before, is EXACTLY the belief I would want the poors to think and spread if I was at the top of the powerful elites.
Obviously I am not condoning torture or violence.
Nope. Torture isn’t a deterrent, it’s a sadistic indulgence.
If Miller ever faces people’s justice, it should be with due process, and if he’s found guilty, the outcome should be fast, cheap and irreversible.
I like the way you think.
I suggest coal mines though. Chances of black lung are much higher, and I’ve heard it’s an awful way to die.