In typical usage, retard (pronounced /ˈɹiː.tɑːɹd/, REE-tard) is an ableist slur for someone who is considered stupid, slow to understand, or ineffective in some way as a comparison to stereotypical traits perceived in those with intellectual disability. The adjective retarded is used in the same way, for something or someone considered very foolish or stupid. The word is sometimes censored and referred to as the euphemistic “r‑word” or “r‑slur”
Retard was previously used as a medical term.
I looked it up, and it looks like the terminology has changed to refer to “intellectual disability” instead. So it’s actually not in your record when using the most updated terminology.
so you agree it is a multifaceted word that requires contextual definition in order to be used properly.
The noun retard is recorded from 1788 in the sense “retardation, delay;” from 1970 in the offensive meaning “retarded person,” originally American English, with accent on first syllable. Other words used for “one who is mentally retarded” include retardate (1956, from Latin retardatus), and U.S. newspapers 1950s-60s often used retardee (1950).
It’s unfair to judge a word that has over 500 years of use on the last 70 years of history.
A bridge that has stood for 500 years can be considered unusable today due to recent developments.
The word clearly isn’t having the effect you say you want. The solution isn’t to bemoan the poor treatment of the word - the solution is to change the word you use.
more analogies that have no other purpose but to oversimplify and confuse the topic. I can’t fault you though, if this is the best way you can understand language. you tried your best after all.
if the intent of the speaker is misunderstood by the listener it’s the listeners fault for misinterpreting and failing to understand contextual intonation.
simply put, the speaker speaks and the listener listens. intent is conveyed through our words and their meaning. if the listener misinterprets the meaning based on context given, it’s the listeners fault.
have you observed that when listening to the speech of someone who is classically educated that their vocabulary seems to be endlessly descriptive and their intent often lost on the uneducated masses? that those with higher education are often ostracized or mocked because they are perceived as “thinking they’re better”.
that’s because the uneducated masses fail to understand the meaning of the words they speak. the peasants fail to understand the nobility of the spoken word. they simply use common to communicate with their simpleminded friends and neighbors.
I’m sure at this point you have clearly understood my intent of this comment.
The word retard dates as far back as 1426. It stems from the Latin verb retardare, meaning “to hinder” or “make slow”.
Much like today’s socially acceptable terms idiot and moron, which are also defined as some sort of mental disability, when the term retard is being used in its pejorative form, it is usually not being directed at people with intellectual disabilities. Instead, people use the term when teasing their friends or as a general insult.
ignoramous: 1570s, originally an Anglo-French legal term (early 15c.), from Latin ignoramus “we take no notice of, we do not know,” first person plural present indicative of ignorare “not to know, take no notice of” (see ignorant).
your comment used it as a zeugma. the term described who you were speaking to as “one who is ignorant” as well as being used as a tongue-in-cheek soliloquy, using a Latin term when you had announced none were present, which used the original definition of “we take no notice of, we do not know”.
it’s quite clever, though I doubt you meant to do it 😆.
Good, so you would understand that today the R word in 99% of any realistic context is going to be a slur. Stop trying to “um akshually” defend the usage of it.
One thing I don’t like about this approach, which I have seen mostly coming from the US but also in other places, is that with the best intentions people identify a problem. Once the problem is identified some plausible solutions are discussed. A bit of attention is placed into how to act in everyday life to limit such an issue. An often proposed option, mostly in the US - I have not seen this in other places, is to stop using words that may have an influence in aggravating or normalising such a problem.
All this is good thinking and a great way to address the problem, but eventually many people forget what the actual objective of such action was and end up discussing about the usage of words rather than the actual problem.
I’m pretty sure the person above did not mean to insult people with medical conditions in any way. Is the whole of this discussion actually important in any way? Are you actually helping people with mental diseases by pointing this out?
I’m pretty sure the person above did not mean to insult people with medical conditions in any way.
I’m sure they didn’t. However, they’re using a term that is very offensive to some people, which they may be unaware of. That’s why it was pointed out. If they want to be an asshole and continue using it anyway, that’s on them.
I use the term as a general insult towards people who seem hellbent on never learning from their mistakes. Like when people keep voting for politicians who openly advocating for violence against those same people, or when people keep getting in car accidents because they think everyone else is the problem (Oh the irony though).
Would never use it towards someone medically incapable of learning from their mistakes, that’s just cruel and not their fault.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retard_(pejorative)
As was idiot, cretin, moron, and imbecile, which suffered similar misuse.
Previously? It’s in my medical paper.
It has fallen into disfavor due to its constant misuse as a pejorative. Might want to update the paper.
Why are you telling me, I’m not the one calling patients the R word 😭
So it’s in your medical record. Depending on how old it is, that was very unprofessional of whoever wrote it.
They wrote F70.8, and when I searched it up, the description was the R word.
I looked it up, and it looks like the terminology has changed to refer to “intellectual disability” instead. So it’s actually not in your record when using the most updated terminology.
Oh, nice!
so you agree it is a multifaceted word that requires contextual definition in order to be used properly.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/retarded
It’s unfair to judge a word that has over 500 years of use on the last 70 years of history.
A bridge that has stood for 500 years can be considered unusable today due to recent developments.
The word clearly isn’t having the effect you say you want. The solution isn’t to bemoan the poor treatment of the word - the solution is to change the word you use.
You have many options - be creative!
more analogies that have no other purpose but to oversimplify and confuse the topic. I can’t fault you though, if this is the best way you can understand language. you tried your best after all.
if the intent of the speaker is misunderstood by the listener it’s the listeners fault for misinterpreting and failing to understand contextual intonation.
simply put, the speaker speaks and the listener listens. intent is conveyed through our words and their meaning. if the listener misinterprets the meaning based on context given, it’s the listeners fault.
have you observed that when listening to the speech of someone who is classically educated that their vocabulary seems to be endlessly descriptive and their intent often lost on the uneducated masses? that those with higher education are often ostracized or mocked because they are perceived as “thinking they’re better”.
that’s because the uneducated masses fail to understand the meaning of the words they speak. the peasants fail to understand the nobility of the spoken word. they simply use common to communicate with their simpleminded friends and neighbors.
I’m sure at this point you have clearly understood my intent of this comment.
if not, read a book.
Yea, and from the same wiki article:
We’re not speaking bloody Latin ya ignoramus.
this is either the perfect comment that uses the word “ignoramus”, or the worst insult.
I’m still not sure if you actually meant to do it or not.
I chose it for its Latin-ness, if that’s what you’re asking.
your comment used it as a zeugma. the term described who you were speaking to as “one who is ignorant” as well as being used as a tongue-in-cheek soliloquy, using a Latin term when you had announced none were present, which used the original definition of “we take no notice of, we do not know”.
it’s quite clever, though I doubt you meant to do it 😆.
No, we’re speaking English. Do you know the definition of etymology?
Do you understand semantic shift?
That’s specifically what I’m referring to.
Good, so you would understand that today the R word in 99% of any realistic context is going to be a slur. Stop trying to “um akshually” defend the usage of it.
One thing I don’t like about this approach, which I have seen mostly coming from the US but also in other places, is that with the best intentions people identify a problem. Once the problem is identified some plausible solutions are discussed. A bit of attention is placed into how to act in everyday life to limit such an issue. An often proposed option, mostly in the US - I have not seen this in other places, is to stop using words that may have an influence in aggravating or normalising such a problem. All this is good thinking and a great way to address the problem, but eventually many people forget what the actual objective of such action was and end up discussing about the usage of words rather than the actual problem.
I’m pretty sure the person above did not mean to insult people with medical conditions in any way. Is the whole of this discussion actually important in any way? Are you actually helping people with mental diseases by pointing this out?
I’m sure they didn’t. However, they’re using a term that is very offensive to some people, which they may be unaware of. That’s why it was pointed out. If they want to be an asshole and continue using it anyway, that’s on them.
I use the term as a general insult towards people who seem hellbent on never learning from their mistakes. Like when people keep voting for politicians who openly advocating for violence against those same people, or when people keep getting in car accidents because they think everyone else is the problem (Oh the irony though).
Would never use it towards someone medically incapable of learning from their mistakes, that’s just cruel and not their fault.