Donald Trump now genuinely lives in a different reality, one in which neither grammar nor history nor the normal rules of human interaction now affect him. Also, he really is maniacally, unhealthily obsessive about the Nobel Prize. The Norwegian Nobel Committee, not the Norwegian government and certainly not the Danish government, determines the winner of that prize. Yet Trump now not only blames Norway for failing to give it to him, but is using it as a justification for an invasion of Greenland.

Think about where this is leading. One possibility, anticipated this morning by financial markets, is a damaging trade war. Another is an American military occupation of Greenland. Try to imagine it: The U.S. Marines arrive in Nuuk, the island’s capital. Perhaps they kill some Danes; perhaps some American soldiers die too. And then what? If the invaders were Russians, they would arrest all of the politicians, put gangsters in charge, shoot people on the street for speaking Danish, change school curricula, and carry out a fake referendum to rubber-stamp the conquest. Is that the American plan too? If not, then what is it? This would not be the occupation of Iraq, which was difficult enough. U.S. troops would need to force Greenlanders, citizens of a treaty ally, to become American against their will.

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  • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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    Amidst all the doomers in here… I know a crazy MAGA person in my family. They have been staunch about supporting him and defending him since the beginning.

    They are livid about this Greenland situation.

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    The last straw before what? What is supposed to happen when the camel’s back breaks?

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    Not the rape, murder, torture, kidnapping, corruption, illegitimacy, illegality, unconstitutionality, warmongering, domestic and international terrorism, pedophilia, economic harm, environmental harm, the destruction of public landmarks, undermining congressional power, illegal firings and appointments, nepotism, theft, convictions, insurrection, sedition, or treason but his grade school bullying of our allies? THAT should be the last straw?

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    Should be?

    Seriously?

    We’re way past the Rubicon. The army is breaking through the city gates.

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      last straw

      Really? The last straw happened in the beginning of his previous administration

      Entire bales of hay followed, I’m buried under straws and I can barely breathe.

      I think “last straw” is very relative.at best.

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        last straw

        Really?

        No. Because now we’re talking about Caesar crossing the Rubicon. Even the ancient Romans would have seen this as a logical progression of the conversation.

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    The US is awesomely amazing at invading other countries. This is a simple fact sustained by history

    Having said that

    It’s also a simple fact, sustained by history, that America suckw beyond badly at occupying conquered territories. Iraq, anyone? Afghanistan anyone?

    And those had relatively easy climates. Greenland is a fucking horror show with which the US has little experience

    Any occupation of Greenland by the US WILL fail eventually, the question is just how many US soldiers will have to die before it’s decided that maybe just maybe this wasn’t a good idea.

    The only way it would could possibly work is a complete genocide, kill or forcibly remove ALL citizens. This of course would be a humanitarian catastrophe with very few examples in history, but I wouldn’t put it past the cheeto.

    This all goes to ignore people living in the US. If you invade Venezuela, Mexico, Canada, Greenland… Do you really think that none of its citizens that currently live in the US might get ideas? Then what? You’re going to round those all up too?

    Once the US invaded one of its allies, the current administration will be over, it’s just a matter of time before it will bleed to death

    To paraphrase a cool movie: There is no winning move, except not to play

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      I see more of a Haiwai situation. Or do you not consider that occupied territory.

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      It’s also a simple fact, sustained by history, that America sucks beyond badly at occupying conquered territories. Iraq, anyone? Afghanistan anyone?

      Why do you assume it would be an occupation? I think you should consider how effectively the United States colonized its own territory while exterminating the indigenous population, and then consider that Greenlanders are, in fact, red Injuns.

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      To paraphrase a cool movie: There is no winning move, except not to play

      It depends what you count as winning. There are some who might consider “give yourself a country for your 80th birthday” the ultimate win, and not give much of a shit beyond that. As an example.

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    the last straw should have been “grab them by the pussy”

    but here we are, getting murdered in the street by nazi fascist pigfuck thugs

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        If only someone time-travels themselves to convince future Trump voters in 2015 to vote for Hillary instead, then everyone would’ve been better off.

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      Which is probably nowhere close to the end. We’re probably going to have to go through a civil war, experience a nuclear catastrophe, something to cow the cultists back.

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    Just how jealous can he be of Obama? Run for president because a joke at the correspondence dinner and willing to start WWIII because Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. FFS

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      I sometimes wonder where we’d be today if Obama hadn’t made that joke or been given the Nobel Prize. That abominable thing might never have entered politics, might never even have entered the conscious awareness of most people of the world.

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        He’d be grasping at straws for the next controversial thing to distract from the Epstein files getting out and proving his pedophilia

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          I was unable to find a photo of enough hay bales to represent 2016 till now. And that’s just the current stuff, we’d need a full planet of hay to represent the number of last straws from before that, and a whole galaxy to represent the global last straws throughout history (obviously).

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