• ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml
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      16 hours ago

      That’s how democrats roll, hand over just enough votes to allow a bill to pass and the rest can claim they apposed it. And when they get back into power they will do nothing to roll back any of the stuff the previous administration enacted.

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      17 hours ago

      They always manage to arrange for this to happen. It’s a strategy. You have to look a bit like an opposition so people will still donate and support you, but you actually want things to go the same way the Republicans do. So you make sure there are always just enough dissenters to defeat you in the vote, while the rest of you get to pose as frustrated people of principle.

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        17 hours ago

        Democrats always break ranks and magically vote with republicans any time it matters. I’ve seen it my entire life and I’m getting pretty old. They’re literally owned by the same oligarchs and Israel

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          19 hours ago

          Okay so you’re dense. What’s the point of democrats that vote like republicans? Stop trying to make the party far right. Expell those democrats from the party.

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            Ideological purity tests are not something we can afford if we are going to try and take majority control and actually progress a sane agenda. We would lose this vote even if 100% of Dems vote against it.

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              17 hours ago

              Moderates. Are. Complicit.

              The possibility of majority control does not exist within today’s democratic party - they exist to lose.

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                17 hours ago

                There is no way to get a majority without including moderates. Never has been, never will be. (At least until we we get rid of FPTP voting which will only happen through Democrats).

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                  16 hours ago

                  The only thing that’s gonna happen with Democrats is a continued shift to the right. If we overlaid today’s political scale with 1980 Democrats would be to the FAR right of Reagan

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                    13 hours ago

                    Ah yes, 1980s Republicans were famous for their support of gay marriage and their compassionate take on the AIDS epidemic.

                    Do you people even think about these bogus claims before you repeat them?