People who have lived half a decade on algorithm-fed short-form video feeds are not looking to replace it with text message boards and still image memes.
They’re going to stay exactly where they are and just have the nutrient mix of the IV adjusted.
i just tried to sign back into loops, app’s too old, went to run the update, doesn’t support my 2024 samsung phone.
edit: I figured it out!
so the installer error pointed out that the package was unparsable, leading me to believe it was 32 bit or a different flavor of arm.
I had to install through ADB to get the real error. Existing version is newer the package. Which was wrong, but to play the game, I uninstalled first and got the same error, then I realized I had loops also installed in the knox partition. Went into secure folder, uninstalled loops, installed package, (no error) and it works fine.
I seriously doubt this will help anyone here, but there it is.
I feel like the big tech push to apps so folks can have data harvested better has become a surprising hurdle for the fediverse. Because I’ve found the web UI for most of the fediverse great, and the apps to be harder for devs to maintain.
I literally just use Lemmy on Firefox on my phone, runs a lot smoother than reddit did on any app. Has some weirdness on occasions but still better than reddit crashing for no reason.
I definitely like Lemmy/piefed webUI a lot.
Pixelfed is adequate, loops is kinda rough
Mastodon is okish; discovery on it is a PITA.
On lemmy, you can find a bunch of communities and subscribe, easily build up a feed. Mastodon having servers as communities is rough, then trying to find creators you like via hashtags, I won’t say that platform needs a complex algorithm, but it could stand to have some simple you followed this person, people who followed this person also like that person.
No algorithm, they’ll just go hang out on Bluesky. They don’t want to follow people or communities, they want to be delivered vibes from an engine that ‘gets’ them.
I’m not blaming them, algo’s are like crack. you just get what you want in exchange for a little time on your eyes for something you might want to buy.
and you think those TucTuc users with an attention span of 15 seconds will be able to figure out how to get the best out of the plethora the decentralized Fediverse has to offer?
fuck, for most beginners learning what instances federate with which other ones is a tough learning curve.
I’d trust Redditurds more, until they can’t find the same subreddits because no-one has created them yet and no one seems to want to be a mod for free (well except them).
at least here most mods get recognition and aren’t tied to a corporate platform.
Why would you need to know who federated where? Are you expecting that they have communities and instances they want to make sure they can view from just one account before they even switch?
Just pick an instance, live the life, and create another account if you want one. All you really need is instance-wide blocking and the rest doesn’t really matter.
Well, like in any generation, there is a certain percentage of highly motivated, cream of the crop kids who will rise above it and succeed at becoming well-informed despite everything.
The real danger is the AVERAGE capability of those who DON’T seek better will crater, and in a democratic system, the capability of your system isn’t based on your top geniuses, it’s based on your average citizen. We’re going to have the most brilliant, capable generation of top minds the world has ever seen at the mercy of completely irrational fools ruled by dopamine and novelty.
…so in that sense, I guess it’s not really all that different from now.
On the positive side, the fediverse has just been given a new use case for a lot of disaffected TikTok users.
On the negative side…
People who have lived half a decade on algorithm-fed short-form video feeds are not looking to replace it with text message boards and still image memes.
They’re going to stay exactly where they are and just have the nutrient mix of the IV adjusted.
Loops: am I a joke to you?
Each batch of crazy at Twitter moved people off Twitter and to Mastodon and Bluesky. Loops won’t catch them all but it’ll get some.
i just tried to sign back into loops, app’s too old, went to run the update, doesn’t support my 2024 samsung phone.
edit: I figured it out!
so the installer error pointed out that the package was unparsable, leading me to believe it was 32 bit or a different flavor of arm.
I had to install through ADB to get the real error. Existing version is newer the package. Which was wrong, but to play the game, I uninstalled first and got the same error, then I realized I had loops also installed in the knox partition. Went into secure folder, uninstalled loops, installed package, (no error) and it works fine.
I seriously doubt this will help anyone here, but there it is.
I feel like the big tech push to apps so folks can have data harvested better has become a surprising hurdle for the fediverse. Because I’ve found the web UI for most of the fediverse great, and the apps to be harder for devs to maintain.
I literally just use Lemmy on Firefox on my phone, runs a lot smoother than reddit did on any app. Has some weirdness on occasions but still better than reddit crashing for no reason.
I definitely like Lemmy/piefed webUI a lot. Pixelfed is adequate, loops is kinda rough Mastodon is okish; discovery on it is a PITA.
On lemmy, you can find a bunch of communities and subscribe, easily build up a feed. Mastodon having servers as communities is rough, then trying to find creators you like via hashtags, I won’t say that platform needs a complex algorithm, but it could stand to have some simple you followed this person, people who followed this person also like that person.
Tiktok alternatives can be developed too. The one and only issue is always just network effects.
No algorithm, they’ll just go hang out on Bluesky. They don’t want to follow people or communities, they want to be delivered vibes from an engine that ‘gets’ them.
I’m not blaming them, algo’s are like crack. you just get what you want in exchange for a little time on your eyes for something you might want to buy.
and you think those TucTuc users with an attention span of 15 seconds will be able to figure out how to get the best out of the plethora the decentralized Fediverse has to offer?
fuck, for most beginners learning what instances federate with which other ones is a tough learning curve.
I’d trust Redditurds more, until they can’t find the same subreddits because no-one has created them yet and no one seems to want to be a mod for free (well except them).
at least here most mods get recognition and aren’t tied to a corporate platform.
and do we even want TucTuckers here?
Why would you need to know who federated where? Are you expecting that they have communities and instances they want to make sure they can view from just one account before they even switch?
Just pick an instance, live the life, and create another account if you want one. All you really need is instance-wide blocking and the rest doesn’t really matter.
Yes I do. And I like TikTok. I just view this as a ripe opportunity for the Fediverse.
Yeah the damage has been done. Half these kids lives have been spent on short form brain rot. There is no going back. Its a generation of idiots.
Well, like in any generation, there is a certain percentage of highly motivated, cream of the crop kids who will rise above it and succeed at becoming well-informed despite everything.
The real danger is the AVERAGE capability of those who DON’T seek better will crater, and in a democratic system, the capability of your system isn’t based on your top geniuses, it’s based on your average citizen. We’re going to have the most brilliant, capable generation of top minds the world has ever seen at the mercy of completely irrational fools ruled by dopamine and novelty.
…so in that sense, I guess it’s not really all that different from now.
Same as it ever was!