• 4am@lemmy.zip
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    1 day ago

    You’d rather be spied on constantly by the largest panopticon ever created, because they allow sideloading.

    Honestly this is voting for Trump over Kamala; we need a viable alternative. Why have they taken personal computing from us?

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      1 day ago

      You can deGoogle Android if you want, hopefully better alternatives, that don’t suck, like Linux Phone™ 🙏 arrive before too long.

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        21 hours ago

        Except all the posts I see about degoogling start with purchasing Google hardware.

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          21 hours ago

          other options besides graphene exist, like lineage OS that work on a ton of different phones. and sure graphene requires google hardware but nobody says you have to buy the hardware from google direct. buying used is different than buying from google

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      19 hours ago

      So you’d rather be spies on by the formerly largest panopticon ever created AND not be able to side load?

      If you think Apple is some paragon of privacy you might want to do some research on that lol.

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      No, I’d rather use my device like I want to use my device instead of how I’m told to use it. I don’t need to sideload on this device but glad I can if and when I want to. I prefer having a computer with me rather than a purposely stunted device kept that way to sell other devices in the ecosystem.

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        You say it’s purposely stunted, I say it has guardrails that saves me hours and hours of family IT support time un-fucking my elderly parents phones. This was something I’d have to do every single time I was home when we had android phones.

        I would dump Apple in a heartbeat if something better existed. They’re not good but they’re the best for my personal scenario of the current options.

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          12 hours ago

          You really shouldn’t be so downvoted for sharing your experience. While not ideal it’s valid and understandable.

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            10 hours ago

            It happens if you express any positive sentiment towards Apple. I don’t give a shit, downvotes matter not.

            I don’t need my phone to be a completely open computer, I have a computer and a server for that. I need a communications appliance, and since I’m the family IT guy, I need the lowest bullshit device my boomer parents can operate. My parents are not going to run some high privacy custom ROM because I’m not going to troubleshoot their problems. I realize that those ROMs are objectively better if you’re only considering the phone, but I basically have to manage a fleet of devices, and it’s easier troubleshooting if I’m also using the same. I don’t love Apple, it’s just easier.

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      Were being spied on regardless, better to choose the option that allows one to do the most with it. If I could throw together my own phone and run a Linux variant on then I fucken would, but as it phone hardware is ass and Linux mobile doesn’t exist for my phone.

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        21 hours ago

        You can’t logic people out of an emotional decision. The hatred of Apple runs deep.

        The obviousness of this is how Android users troll Apple discussions but Apple users don’t troll Android discussions.

        They have insanely strong opinions on what other’s choices that it borderline religious.