“The Republicans should say, we want to take over, we should take over the voting, the voting in at least many, 15 places. The Republicans ought to nationalize the voting,” Trump told Dan Bongino, the former deputy director of the FBI, in a podcast appearance.

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On several occasions, Trump has pledged to change how the country votes, zeroing in on methods he falsely claims lead to fraudulent voting. In August, he said he was going to “lead a movement” to end mail-in ballots, and vowed to sign an executive order banning them, in addition to voting machines. He did not end up signing the order.

The president also kicked off a rare mid-decade redistricting campaign intended to help Republicans win additional US House seats in November’s midterm elections.

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    Here’s the deal: If you are American and you want to be able to vote in the future, you have one option, and it’s bloody awful.

    If you choose to do nothing, you choose to not have voting rights. If me telling you this upsets you, ask yourself: am I more upset that it is the truth or that someone is telling the truth to me?

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      I have no problem saying the Democrats fucking suck and I’m going to vote for them down the whole ballot.

      Well, I do have a problem saying that, I wish I didnt have to, but that’s life while democracy is circling the drain.

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            Following me around much?

            Anyone who says something that pelespirit doesn’t like is a bot?

            I mean, that’s just not true at all. They hate everything.

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              pelespirit doesn’t like is a bot

              pelespirit says that. they’re the one accusing someone of being a bot.

              And following you around? You are arguing with litterally everyone in this thread, cluelessly flailing.

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                I respond to people who respond to me. So are you saying they are saying that I’m a bot or are you saying that I’m a bot?

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                  I’ve not accused anyone of being a bot.

                  I accused you of being an idiot incapable of basic math. Even the bots these days can do basic math.

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                    Math? I see no math here. Are you the one following me around flailing? Did you forget which thread you were on?

                    Man, your reactions are delicious.

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      1. I’m upset about fascists taking our rights away.
      2. I’m upset about commenters showing up and telling us we gotta do something, but offering no advice as to what to do.

      It’s always complaining that we don’t do anything. When I ask what exactly it is that I should do, it’s some answer like, “Take care of your neighbors and help people in need”. Your comment is more of the same. What exactly do you want me to do outside of going out and killing people?

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        They want chaos in our streets so they can do martial law. These are tests for the midterms. We’re very fortunate to have clear examples of how it works:

        • California, some cars and robots got damaged
        • California, some people harmed, but not killed
        • Minnesota, woman was killed and peaceful protests
        • Minnesota, guy shows up with a gun, gun was taken away, he was executed.
        • Minnesota, peaceful protests continue and most of the US is against the government’s decisions

        Throughout all of this, immigrants and US citizens that are POC are being shot, separated from their families, deported, beat up and stalked (severity not in order). If we do the thing and start having chaos, they will shoot to kill many, many people. They have masks and guns. Again, most of the US hates ICE.

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          Nationwide martial law is never happening in this country.

          “Martial law” is the leftist version of the Rapture. It’s never happening, and every time it doesn’t the goalposts just move to the future again.

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            So what exactly are you saying? If you show up with guns to a protest, they’ll execute you. What are your other ideas?

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              You said it yourself. The peaceful protests in Minnesota have continued. They had elections and voted blue, despite the city crawling with ICE and other federal agents.

              Continue protesting, calling your reps, and voting. In Minnesota they said “we will crawl over broken glass to vote against the GOP” and they put their money where their mouths were.

              And through this all they’ve given a blueprint to blue cities and states across the country

              Stop capitulating in advance because it’s the easy way out. Have some agency.

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                I mean, that’s what I’m saying exactly. We agree then, lol.

                You said it yourself. The peaceful protests in Minnesota have continued. They had elections and voted blue, despite the city crawling with ICE and other federal agents.

                Continue protesting, calling your reps, and voting. In Minnesota they said “we will crawl over broken glass to vote against the GOP” and they put their money where their mouths were.

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                  Then my apologies if I misinterpreted you. I’m just sick of doomers using “all is lost” as an excuse to sit on their asses and refuse to take any action, and as a politically active individual it really rustles my jimmies.

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                    Having foreign actors try and get us to bring guns and shoot ICE rustles my jimmies. They are trying to cause chaos.

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            Spread the word. The only downside to a strike is not enough people striking.

            And that when USA during WWII rounded up all the Americans of Japanese descent to put them in prison they still were forced to work.

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          I signed up, but I really have to wonder why they need names and zip codes?

          Seems like an easy target if that information leaks. Trump’s regime would love that list

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            Dude… They already know the list. Everybody posts their stupid opinions all over public forums, sometimes anonymous, sometimes with verified identities, and likely very rarely with a vpn. It would take very little for “the government” to compile that list with even more intimate details, and I assume that’s already been done. They know who you are and where you stand. The idea that we can think, much less act, in anonymity is antiquated.

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        Go to your local congress person and demand they publicly announce Trump’s attempt to take over the country.

        And then don’t leave until they do it. You might get arrested, but you can get arrested now or die in a concentration camp later. It’s your choice.

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        I’m upset about commenters showing up and telling us we gotta do something, but offering no advice as to what to do.

        You’re upset that others won’t fix your problems for you?

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          You can’t read. If you have a suggestion as to how I can do my part to fix this, I’ll not only listen, I’ll do it.

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            Ah, so you’re upset that others won’t tell you how to fix your problems? Vastly different, yes

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              You’re being asinine. I bet you would tell the people in Gaza and Palestine to solve their own problems too.

              Are you even from the US? If so, what are you doing other than being bothersome online?? Because it seems like you’re a Russian troll.

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                25% to 30% of social media is astroturf, according to studies I’ve heard. Maybe not a Russian troll, but certainly paid for by fascists. Don’t let them bother you. They hate their lives sitting in their tiny cubicle telling lies for a meager wage.

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                  “Certainly paid for by fascists”, lol.

                  How dare I say that Americans should fix their own fucking problems instead of whining about how everybody is being mean and not telling them how to fix them

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                Certainly a Russian troll for suggesting you Americans get your own shit together instead of whining that the rest of the world won’t tell you how to fix things.

                Because Gaza and Palestine are definitely the same as the US. Excellent analogy, only something an American could have come up with – Israel committing genocide in Gaza is the same as Americans voting for fascists

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                  I wonder, do you think you’re providing value here?

                  I don’t think you’re paid-for, because I’m convinced of your self-righteousness. Your condescension is too natural to be fake.

                  But let me ask you: does whining about people whining make you better than them, or worse? What’s your goal?

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          Liberals think for a criticism to be valid, you owe them an solution to the problem you identify.

          Which is of course absurd.

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        It’s funny how easy it is for other people to call for us to revolt as if it’s just that easy. Oh yeah, just all of you get together and overthrow the biggest, most well armed government in the world. Sure… yup. Easy peasy. We do that every other weekend in my country!

        The people of the US aren’t going to rise up and overthrow a government that can curb stomp literally any other formally trained militaries in the world. It just won’t happen. All it will mean is fewer dissidents and an even stronger fascist response in the event of future uprising. We just don’t have any hope of attaining the sort of power.

        If there’s a revolution, the only way is to start from the top down. Formal legal complaint and lawsuits, impeachments, etc. That’s where we’re at right now. If that fails, then we need our officials to start talking dissolution or secession.

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          While the US military is as powerful as you describe, I don’t believe Trump has that level of control over the military. It’s why he’s militarizing ICE as his personal army. ICE is much easier to resist since they lack the discipline and training of the military

          There are many ways we can resist. We all have to try something and hope one of the efforts is successful. ICE is still hiring. Gumming up the works from the inside could be effective, as an example

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            I don’t believe Trump has that level of control over the military.

            What has happened to the ICE thugs who murdered two US citizens? I think that tells you that he does have the power to do whatever the fuck he wants.

            Also, you’re right that he has ICE to replace the military, but they have billions and billions of dollars to stock up on weapons and absolutely no accountability. It takes some serious digging to find out who they are. Rising up with force is just plain dumb.

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        Another .world account within a month of 2.7 years complaining about people not being fascists lovers.

        Go fuck yourself.

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      Those here who need to be told this cannot read, or at least choose to not read anything that isn’t delivered via Faux News, “NewsMax”, OAN, etc.
      It’s going to take more than rationality on a screen or a piece of paper.

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        The chuds are happy for this.

        The ones who really need to be told this are the ones who STILL insist that Biden would have been worse for Palestine than trump is so that is why they couldn’t vote for such an uncharismatic candidate as Kamala. They don’t support genocide, period.

        And they don’t watch fox news. They watch tankie nonsense like hasan. So they feel genuinely righteous as they are either so stupid as to not realize they are pushing an accelerationist agenda or figure it will turn out good for them because they are the best socialist so they will have the most money and power after The Revolution.

        And… we are REALLY fucking stupid in the US. But you EU and rest of the world folk might want to pay attention to what is going on domestically too because a lot of y’all ain’t THAT far behind us on the way to the drain.

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          The ones who really need to be told this are the ones

          The ones who need to be told this are the ones who INSISTED that Biden needed to be the candidate. Its not the left that got us here: It was fucking shitty liberals who didn’t want to bother finding candidates who represent the people.

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            The people who worked hard on Lemmy to get people not to vote for Kamala need to be taken out.

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              Jesus fucking Christ this isn’t a fucking thing.

              If you wanted Harris to win, you needed Harris to change her positions. Thats it. And if you were badgering people about problems with Harris: YOU HELPED GET TRUMP ELECTED

              There is no other path to stopping Trump considering how long liberals refused to acknowledge that continuing to run Biden was to effectively fold to Trump.

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                Having been on Lemmy during the election… yes it was exactly what I saw happening. You’re just too blind and “center-right” to see it.

                Good luck on those midterm elections! Buy a gun!

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      Pointing out that in several states the US midterms might not exactly be free and open seems to really get a lot of resistance from Americans. Many seem like they really don’t even want to think about it, and would just rather keep believing that the midterms will solve everything

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        Elections in this country have literally never been free and open. Voter suppression has always happened. Don’t let it discourage you from acting or make you believe that we can’t still win, because history has shown us that it isn’t true.

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          History got Trump as President. Twice. History has led to Republicans getting full control of USA.

          If people had not been historically discouraged we would not be here yet again talking about Trump.

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        It’s shocking to me how many feel that way. They get MAD when I even mention the possibility of what Trump is literally saying. Many of them are on Lemmy too, which has always felt strange.

        🙈🙉🙊

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          reddit has very minimal bot protection and a lot of systems designed to benefit those who pay to play, as it were.

          Lemmy doesn’t even have that. And it is trivial to make multiple accounts across multiple instances. Whether that is to role play some nonsense or to do the old “the first two or three downdoots set the tone” trick people try to pretend isn’t a thing. And spend a bit of time shitposting/reading the timestamps and… some of them are REAL obvious.

          And this is very apparent in the various political threads. LOTS of people pushing agendas (the gun nut lobby being particularly alarming). Let alone the “official” lemmy instance being blocked by most people because it is infested with lead dev sanctioned tankies who are largely indistinguishable from chuds when it comes to pushing putin et al’s policies.

          Much like in the good old days: Open, minimally invasive, social media is fun (yes. IRC and Usenet were social media). It is also infested with bad actors and manipulators.

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          Yeah, we’re getting downvoted for daring to point out in a comment that what Trump said in the post I linked to might not be great for election security

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            Here’s an observation I’ve had. There are a large number of .world accounts with ages all within a month or two of 2.7 years. These accounts a very vocal about how they feel any kind of uprising is bad news. Just sit tight, follow the rules, let the politicians solve the problem. Don’t fight.

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              Its when the first major exodus from Reddit was, around the API restrictions. Before that Lemmy was barely fledgling, practically unpopulated.

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                You’re joking right? In the 2024 election you think Lemmy was unpopulated?

                I’m dying laughing.

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                  In the 2024 election

                  Do I need to get the whiteboard out and work this out for you? It was the summer of 2023. I get that you are largely under attack in this thread, but you are quite literally flailing at everyone who respond to you right now.