MeeToo is 100% contrary to the morality of it’s better to let 10 innocent people go than to judge one innocent person.
that is supposed to be the foundation of our judicial system in most western democracies.
In Denmark where I live we already see innocent people going to jail on false accusations of rape. We had one such case for instance a few years back, where one woman was the reason for 4 men going to jail for years, but she admitted to a family member of one of the accused that she had lied, unfortunately for her, she was being taped.
This atrocity of a court decision was only possible because there’s an absolute disregard for lack of evidence in rape cases.
A crying woman complaining about assault is almost automatically trusted over the “evil” men that allegedly did her harm.
It’s absolutely disgusting and insane that we condemn innocent people on nothing but an unproven allegation. That is not how the judicial system is supposed to work. And you can see on the statistics of court cases that women are consistently favored in the judicial system already, both here and in USA and most western countries. In USA this is extremely clearly revealed in research papers regarding who get the death penalty in USA. In that situation, you better not be a black guy. Well guess what? To MeeToo all men are even worse off regarding a guilty verdict than black guys facing the death penalty.
Women are already seen as the ones that need protection, even in cases where they aren’t.
What we need is to establish fairness in the judicial system, not to make it worse.
And you edited the fuck out of the comment I responded to, how very Good Faith of you!
The MeToo movement was about holding abusers accountable for their actions, and trying to take some of the shame away from being a victim.
That’s it.
Falsely accusing someone of rape is wrong, sure, and if that’s what the MeToo movement was about, you’d have a point, but… it wasn’t. That just seems to be your take.
MeToo movement was about holding abusers accountable for their actions,
I have absolutely no problem with that part, but we’ve seen examples where it caused a reversal of the burden of proof, the mere accusation against someone, can ruin their life, even if they are innocent.
That’s the problem with holding the courts in the street as MeToo has often done, instead of in actual courts.
Obviously the reason MeToo exist is that the problem they address is real, and I acknowledge that women needs to be protected against that problem. But when what is considered sexual assault becomes 100% subjective, and a man can be accused of it, by merely taking an elevator with a woman, then we are at the level of insane. And this is not just hypothetical, an entire congress of hundreds of people was disrupted on exactly this issue. The woman admitted the man didn’t even approach her, but she was offended that he dared enter the elevator with her, as to her she claimed it broke her boundaries.
Men can’t be required to behave according to such paranoia of women. And for comparison, the man could say the same, that women shouldn’t enter an elevator with a lonely man, out of fear he might be accused of rape.
That is insanity. And is not based in any form of moral standard. Being psychotically paranoid should not be treated as the norm.
If the woman asks if a man could please take the next one, I bet 90% of men would respect that. In case someone doesn’t, it must be the woman that leaves the elevator, because it is her that has a problem using elevators normally.
Falsely accusing someone of rape is wrong, sure, and if that’s what the MeToo movement was about, you’d have a point, but… it wasn’t.
No it’s not what MeeToo is about, but their principles are so extreme, they demand that women be trusted on their word alone, and THAT has an enormous potential for the above result.
MeeToo is 100% contrary to the morality of it’s better to let 10 innocent people go than to judge one innocent person.
that is supposed to be the foundation of our judicial system in most western democracies.
In Denmark where I live we already see innocent people going to jail on false accusations of rape. We had one such case for instance a few years back, where one woman was the reason for 4 men going to jail for years, but she admitted to a family member of one of the accused that she had lied, unfortunately for her, she was being taped.
This atrocity of a court decision was only possible because there’s an absolute disregard for lack of evidence in rape cases.
A crying woman complaining about assault is almost automatically trusted over the “evil” men that allegedly did her harm.
It’s absolutely disgusting and insane that we condemn innocent people on nothing but an unproven allegation. That is not how the judicial system is supposed to work. And you can see on the statistics of court cases that women are consistently favored in the judicial system already, both here and in USA and most western countries. In USA this is extremely clearly revealed in research papers regarding who get the death penalty in USA. In that situation, you better not be a black guy. Well guess what? To MeeToo all men are even worse off regarding a guilty verdict than black guys facing the death penalty.
Women are already seen as the ones that need protection, even in cases where they aren’t.
What we need is to establish fairness in the judicial system, not to make it worse.
And you edited the fuck out of the comment I responded to, how very Good Faith of you!
The MeToo movement was about holding abusers accountable for their actions, and trying to take some of the shame away from being a victim.
That’s it.
Falsely accusing someone of rape is wrong, sure, and if that’s what the MeToo movement was about, you’d have a point, but… it wasn’t. That just seems to be your take.
I made changes to clarify, nothing else.
I have absolutely no problem with that part, but we’ve seen examples where it caused a reversal of the burden of proof, the mere accusation against someone, can ruin their life, even if they are innocent.
That’s the problem with holding the courts in the street as MeToo has often done, instead of in actual courts.
Obviously the reason MeToo exist is that the problem they address is real, and I acknowledge that women needs to be protected against that problem. But when what is considered sexual assault becomes 100% subjective, and a man can be accused of it, by merely taking an elevator with a woman, then we are at the level of insane. And this is not just hypothetical, an entire congress of hundreds of people was disrupted on exactly this issue. The woman admitted the man didn’t even approach her, but she was offended that he dared enter the elevator with her, as to her she claimed it broke her boundaries.
Men can’t be required to behave according to such paranoia of women. And for comparison, the man could say the same, that women shouldn’t enter an elevator with a lonely man, out of fear he might be accused of rape.
That is insanity. And is not based in any form of moral standard. Being psychotically paranoid should not be treated as the norm.
If the woman asks if a man could please take the next one, I bet 90% of men would respect that. In case someone doesn’t, it must be the woman that leaves the elevator, because it is her that has a problem using elevators normally.
No it’s not what MeeToo is about, but their principles are so extreme, they demand that women be trusted on their word alone, and THAT has an enormous potential for the above result.