how does using docx lock users to microsoft? you can use onlyoffice to open and edit docx, ya dont need microsoft 365? pls explain to me guys
LibreOffice for life! If I ever bow to Microslop someone just end me.
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“Give me liberty or give me death!” Classic!
Pretty noticeable that Gentoo Linux doesn’t offer an option to compile OnlyOffice locally—it’s only available as a -bin package, which means that it’s precompiled by upstream. That tells me that either the available source is too incomplete to actually compile the software from, or it has some really strange licensing. Either way, it can’t be open-source software in the accepted sense.
hmm…is it really “blasting” when it only mentions this in like a single line in the beginning paragraph?
Many interpreted the last article in this series as an attack on Microsoft for using the OOXML format against users’ interests. However, this was only one of my objectives, as I also wanted to raise users’ awareness of fake open-source software, such as OnlyOffice, which partners with Microsoft in a strategy to lock users in.
LibreOffice M-M-M-M-M-M-M-ONSTER KILLS OpenOffice…
Need to make those click bait headlines from something. You gonna deny a hard working AI a job?
You gonna deny a hard working AI a job?
Yes please!
so that means they were SLAMMED instead
BLASTS yt link
The headline doesn’t match the article, but indeed onlyoffice it’s not real open source.
In my language onlyoffice has several typos. Went to GitHub to submit a PR and… there are no translations to translate.
I open an issue and they tell me to send the fixes to someone by email. I send them, they are ignored and 5 years later it’s still with the annoying typos.
This is a program where they pretend to be open only for marketing but they aren’t actually open
that’s why you should use LibreOffice
So, like 'open’AI…
As I said in my previous comment…
BLAST
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I’ve had a relatively good experience with OnlyOffice, although it has some issues.
Personally I don’t see interoperability as an anti-open issue, but I can appreciate the stance. I think I have to investigate to understand how the Microsoft format diverges from the open standard for office XML files, or in what way the format remains proprietary. I had been under the impression that OnlyOffice follows the open standard.
OnlyOffice does ape Microsoft Office in a lot of ways but I see that as a positive. Users are far more likely in my opinion to switch to something that looks and feels familiar.
LibreOffice is hard to use. The menus and shortcuts are not well organized and the entire suite feels like a relic from the early 2000s. If they invested in a modern UI with less friction for users who are looking for MS alternatives, they wouldn’t be facing competition from projects like OnlyOffice. If they invested in feature parity for mobile users, they wouldn’t be losing potential users to those who offer it.
They have an incredibly powerful backend with far more capability than the more junior OnlyOffice. Yet they fail to recognize why that just doesn’t matter to the majority of users. Most users just want to quickly author and edit files, share them with other users, and get on with the next task. LibreOffice has become overly fixated on niche features and optimizations that are very cool from a technical standpoint but are totally out of touch.
By the way, LibreOffice also supports OOXML, so… do with that what you want.
False information. LibreOffice nowadays has multiple types of interfaces to choose from, including some matching more modern MS office. Give it another try.
They should default to a more modern interface rather than asking newbies to make the change.
Do know if Calc has some Power Query equivalent ETL-tool or supports multiple people working a file simultaneously in cloud?
Simply the fact that, unlike OnlyOffice, LO misses inline equations in presentations (unless you resort to strange hacks and workarounds) makes LO unusable for my use case. I’m not complaining, but that’s what it is.
By the way, LibreOffice also supports OOXML, so… do with that what you want.
Yes, from the article:
LibreOffice currently handles ODF files perfectly and handles OOXML files better than Windows 365 and other software handle ODF files. Poor handling of ODF files “forces” users towards OOXML files, thus pushing them towards lock-in and protecting a business worth around $30 billion (because lock-in functions like a pair of handcuffs).
Agreed that there interface looks like the late late 90’s.
I’d recommend Libre more often but it’s a step backwards for most average users in UI. Microsoft has had the ribbon since, what, Office 2007?
I honestly prefer the classic LibreOffice UI. The ribbon thing takes up a lot of screen space and i really didn’t like it when it debuted in Office 2007. Then microsoft made the color a fancy bluish hue so it could be more fancy. LibreOffice is the best
LO also has the ribbon interface. But not by default.
Good. Those that want it can enable it. I don’t. Takes up too much screen space showing a lot of unnecessary icons
IIRC, the last time I used a new install of LO for the first time, it asked me which interface I preferred instead of defaulting to the old one.
True, but it is a purely aesthetic rearrangement of the menus. It doesn’t make it any more straightforward to navigate. Plus it doesn’t really function correctly on Windows (and it takes up just as much screen space).
It was a good step when they rolled it out about a decade ago, but they still haven’t done the work to make it better organized or show appropriate hierarchy.
but it is a purely aesthetic rearrangement of the menus
And what do you think gui is?
As per my previous comment, it should offer reasonable use of screen space, visual hierarchy, and well-reasoned organization. Moving bad menus to a different arrangement on the screen doesn’t magically make them into good menus.
As a first step, it was a good move, although it was a decade late when it came out. They still haven’t done a major redesign another decade on.
You’re the first account I’ve seen endorse OpenOffice, and I’ve been casually looking for a better alternative to word since the copilot bullshit last year.
Do you have a good example of something they added since LibreOffice forked off that’s worth considering if choosing an alternative?
OpenOffice ≠ OnlyOffice
OpenOffice is no longer actively maintained to my knowledge, and should be avoided as such
What a terribly misleading post title.
The post title contains literally the entire OnlyOffice-related content of the article, which is titled “Why ODF and not OOXML”. Here’s the first paragraph:
Many interpreted the last article in this series as an attack on Microsoft for using the OOXML format against users’ interests. However, this was only one of my objectives, as I also wanted to raise users’ awareness of fake open-source software, such as OnlyOffice, which partners with Microsoft in a strategy to lock users in.
Everything after this is about closed vs open standards.
darn, 2 minutes too late. made a similar comment.
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I totally agree with LibreOffice team!
