• DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world
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      15 hours ago

      It does not have to be separate. No legally recognized marriage for anyone. You want marriage, go to a priest. No reason for gov to stick their nose in.

      It is pretty much a violation of separation of church and state to take a religious term from a religious ritual like marriage and giving it legal weight.

      • SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        9 hours ago

        FWIW, I support abolition of marriage. It’s weird that relationships are enshrined in law anyway, as many people do not fit into those rigid definitions. Whether it is because they do not wish to have a marriage/romantic relationships or otherwise have them be legally bound, or because they are poly and have more partners, and asking people to choose isn’t great

        In my head I guess marriage just feels archaic. Sure, it still got a similar purpose to how it was historically, but I question whether it’s actually a good thing to keep

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          How would you protect the rights that go with marriage if you abolish marriage? Those include the right to visit your spouse in the hospital, right to attend spouse’s funeral, right to name spouse for inheritance purposes with legal weight, right to live in the housing you shared with your spouse after your spouse dies, right for your spouse to make medical decisions should you be unable to make those decisions, and others that I may be overlooking.

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            3 hours ago

            You can do paperwork for these things. Marriage is convenient though. We need laws that just say “yeah I trust my friend/relative to decide for me” like a non marriage

            • Noxy@pawb.social
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              You can do paperwork for these things

              Please explain to me how exactly could I “do paperwork” to restore, for example the spousal communications privilege and the spousal testimonial privilege that would both be taken away from me if my marriage was dissolved.

              And do you really expect people to just start pre-emptively filling out paperwork to notify every single hospital they might possibly ever end up in after some major health issue, that would allow their spouse to visit them, particularly if it’s a hospital in an area hostile to queer folks?