I give him one thing that keto diet works for dropping weight but it’s hard to sustain
It’s a brutally boring diet after awhile.
I lost like thirty pounds but I started having weird and elaborate pancakes cravings and dreams. It was weird
Basically the same here, but it was pizza crust dreams.
I’m keto and I don’t have schizophrenia so it must be true.
/s
“Experts, schmexperts. I’m on the salt and beef diet, and that cures everything!”
– “wellness” morons, probably
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Palmer was clear that nobody should stop psychiatric medications without careful supervision. While one of the patients in his study worked with her doctor to safely taper off her psychiatric medications, the other decided to stop all of them suddenly on her own.
“Let me be clear, that was an unmitigated catastrophe for her. She became severely psychotic. She was hospitalized for over two months,” Palmer said. That patient continued her diet throughout her hospitalization, and had to go back on medication before tapering off safely.
if you read through the lines it’s two supervised cases and only fully supervised case to be clear. Despite the keto diet the second patient was, in fact, psychotic, until the medication was reintroduced.
Kennedy Jr’s statement probably referred to the Harvard psychiatrist Dr Christopher Palmer, who said he has “never once used the word ‘cure’ in my work. I have never claimed to have cured any mental illness, including schizophrenia,” but added: “I have talked about ketogenic diet being a very powerful treatment, even to the point of inducing remission of symptoms of schizophrenia.”
RFK is a crackpot moving way too fast. At the same time, The Guardian is equally misleading in its headline here.
There IS evidence that Schizophrenia, like a lot of other disorders (epilepsy, Alzheimer’s, Bipolar, etc) have links to the microbiome. Here is a paper analyzing various studies into keto as an effective treatment for schizophrenia. It’s not perfect, it’s not for everyone, and more research is needed.
Technically the Guardian is correct when they say there is no evidence that keto can “cure”, but I find it very misleading when there is a decent bit of evidence that it is an effective treatment.
I’ve suspected for a while now that a good chunk of common health issues might be caused by malnutrition. Like energy needs are being met and/or exceeded, but not necessarily the case for each nutrient.
Like I’ve started to recognize when I’m protein deficient. I get a headache and general unwell feeling. I’ll have an appetite for things with protein but it doesn’t just feel like hunger.
And personally, if I’m feeling depressed and unmotivated to do anything, even what’s usually fun, I can resolve that with a vitamin b-complex supplement (usually I take vitamin D and K2 with it, so those could be playing a role), and if that doesn’t have me feeling better (as in normal, not just “less depressed”) within 15 minutes or so, I also take a magnesium supplement. This may or may not work for anyone else (it requires that your depression be caused by b and/or magnesium deficiency), but it has consistently worked for me since 2020, when it helped get over the exhaustion that might have been long covid.
Micronutrients are essential for many different body functions and I think it’s easy to miss some if you don’t have a lot of variety in your regular diet, especially if you mostly eat processed stuff where the process could inadvertently remove or change the nutrients into something we can’t absorb.
I agree that one’s biome can also play a big role, though I think nutrient intake (both what you consume and what you absorb) and gut biome health can end up in a vicious cycle because those microbes also need the right nutrients to stay healthy and can be exposed to substances that are fine for us but toxic to them. I haven’t looked in a while, but this was my objection to all the studies that “showed” glyphosate was safe, as the ones I saw were mostly about how it doesn’t react with any of our own bio-processes, but no information about whether that’s the same for the bacteria we have a symbiotic relationship with.
Yeah I think that’s an important line to walk: the conversation between the body and the mind. A lot of people in my life seem to really struggle with body awareness. They wait for the signals from their bodies to reach a certain threshold before paying attention. It’s like waiting until your car’s low fuel light is flashing before starting to look for a gas station.
On the other hand, you can go too far… But maybe that’s a good thing? The placebo effect is real. Any time I take supplements, especially when the science is mixed, I wonder whether the supplement actually works or if it’s just placebo. But at the end of the day I don’t care which. I still take my vitamin D in the winter, my vitamin C when I start to feel a cold coming on.
Yeah, I think at this point I do get the placebo effect first, pretty much immediately after taking the vitamin b-complex, as it works faster than I’d expect my body to really access those nutrients (though it is water soluable, so maybe it does start getting absorbed immediately), and I have had times where it feels like just the B is going to do the trick but then the tiredness returns a few mins later and I add the magnesium.
My approach to supplements in general is an assumption that I generally get most of what I need from my diet (which is better these days than it used to be earlier in my adult life), but that I’m probably not meeting all the needs consistently, so I’ll supplement it occasionally, either with a dose of multivitamin when I’m not feeling like anything is missing or with specific ones if I’m experiencing potential deficiency symptoms. I don’t want to supplement into overload, which can be as bad or worse than deficiency.
Also gotta watch out for the scam supplements, or ones suggested based on single properties without considering other consequences of them.
Eg, a little while ago, I bought some bromelain on a whim after seeing a claim it could dissolve eye floaters. Before taking one, I realized I had acted too quickly in buying them and did more reading and found out that even if it can get past the blood brain barrier and into the eyes (which is dubious at best), there’s nothing to stop it from dissolving other proteins inside the eyes, ones that aren’t just minor annoyances (speaking about my own situation, I understand floaters can get much worse than just annoying), and end up hurting your vision.
He so close - it’s not the Keto Diet, it’s brain-worms from eating the roadkill.
There’s a day coming when most Americans will have very limited access to real medicine. A plurality will have to depend on quackery and home remedies.
I have no expertise but found Dr Christopher Palmer’s book interesting: https://brainenergy.com/
Why would literally anyone listen to this coke-fried man whose had actual fucking worms crawling around in his actual fucking brain?
But he’s snorted cocaine off a toilet seat, he’s just like me or you! So relatable.
also HEROIN damaged brain, who drove his family member to OD on it, plus cocaine, and decades of parasite exposure. and he resulted in 80+ somoan Dead children by advising them to not take the MEASLES VACCINE.
someone has been brain damaged by cocaine and heroin should not be giving medical advice, and likely a parasirtic infection in his youth(before his divorce)
The evidence that ketogenic diet might help with schizophrenia symptom remission comes from two case reports that Palmer published in Schizophrenia Research in 2019. When discussing them, Palmer was quick to emphasise that “yes, it’s only two”, and that “case reports don’t prove anything. They’re not controlled. They come with tremendous amounts of bias.” But, Palmer noted, that can be important for generating hypotheses about what treatments might work. Palmer thought it was valuable to publish these case reports because remission of schizophrenia symptoms is incredibly rare.
Two case studies! The scientist quoted knows that it means nothing! Don’t read one article that might show something that confirms your bias and go “this is real.”
“But even the doctor who wrote about it says it isn’t a cure.”
“What the fuck does he know?”
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wasnt there a recent post, rebuking ketogenic diet is not much of difference.
Nothing this snake oil salesman says is ever backed by any evidence.
thats DR.OZs job.
No evidence behind most of what this walking crime against humanity says
Who would have guessed you could cure mental illness back thousands of years by eating exclusively chicken.
That’s a carnivore diet. A ketogenic diet can be vegan.
Not that I’m recommending a vegan keto diet, I’m just saying you got your diets mixed up.
When has RFK ever suggested a vegan diet? The article referenced a “red meat, whole milk and animal fats” diet. So my mistake I should have said steak not chicken.
that is where you get all your essential parasites.
Whole milk has more sugar than it has fat.
he reccomended RAW MILK.
That’s true, sorry. Raw milk has more sugar than it has fat. (it’s basically the same as whole milk)
Whole milk + live bacteria!
After some health issues I did a whole food plant based, SOS, Keto diet. My cholesterol ratio went to 1.08 without meds, I lost a ton of weight, was full of energy and got fit as fuck, and apparently I was “full of color” because I was now eating a ton of vitamins and nutrients. Great diet but viciously difficult to keep up with unless you have a peraonal chef.
Needless to say, I am no longer that strict.
FIBER does slow down the absorption of fat, cholesterol and sugar. i
I’ve also done several stints of mostly veg with some fish keto, and every time it’s like magic. Feel great, clear head, drop 5kg over a couple weeks. It’s always back-to-back social things or travel that break it. If I lived in a bubble or some keto-only hippie commune, I’d be shredded like a block of cheddar.
But a block of cheddar isn’t shredded. It’s a block. Shredded cheddar is shredded.
The cheddar GETS shredded through work.
It was the COVID lockdown that killed it for me. I haven’t been terrible since, but I also have not found the motivation to go hard core again.
