Chemtrails are broadly believed to be nefarious chemicals that alter everything from weather (to facilitate global warming, not to prevent it) to human/animal hormones. While exhaust is no doubt harmful, when conspiracy theorists speak of chemtrails, they are speaking of shady government operatives intentionally loading the planes with experimental chemicals that are meant to be rained down onto the masses.
Do those pages inspire trust in the government and military? Would you know if you were being experimented on and gaslit?
Corporations engage in similar unethical behavior, like putting ingredients that are known to be toxic or harmful to human health in products we consume or put on our bodies.
Instead of blaming or name-calling people who are paranoid or suspicious, we need a society with a greater focus on human rights — with more regulation and oversight. A society that inspires trust, with the facts, ethics, and independent review to back it up.
Instead of blaming or name-calling people who are paranoid or suspicious
You’re leaving out the massively important fact that a basic science fact that one can experiment and experience themselves on a cool morning is enough to destroy these idiots. If your world view is that fragile then you deserve all mockery you get for holding it continually
Why go out of your way to disprove them, laugh at them, or name-call them? You can just empathize with them.
For me, I’d rather address why the government HAS felt it had the right to experiment on us. I can NOT blame these individuals for treading into delusion with our current system being the way it is, especially considering the history.
Why go out of your way to disprove them, laugh at them, or name-call them
They’re willingly living in stupidity. If we just let people do that we get people like Trump, so Id rather avoid that
I can NOT blame these individuals for treading into delusion
Neither can I, but as I said you’re purposefully ignoring a big part of what’s being discussed: the part where they don’t ever tread back out of delusion. There’s 0 defense for that
The Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee called for using far-right candidates “as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right.” Clinton’s camp insisted that Trump and other extremists should be “elevated” to “leaders of the pack” and media outlets should be told to “take them seriously.”
Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and mainstream media played a pretty big role in Trump’s rise to power. Everybody is responsible for his rise to power, but the facts are facts. They intentionally elevated him.
They’re willingly living in stupidity. If we just let people do that we get people like Trump, so Id rather avoid that
These people don’t have power over others like Trump.
Neither can I, but as I said you’re purposefully ignoring a big part of what’s being discussed: the part where they don’t ever tread back out of delusion. There’s 0 defense for that
You aren’t responsible for other’s beliefs. You are loosely reveling in their suffering, whether you realize it or not. They are very concerned and are likely vulnerable individuals.
Plenty of things happen in this world that each respective populace doesn’t consent to.
Seriously, why single them out for going a little crazy? It’s not like I haven’t pointed at somebody and laughed in the past, so no judgement here, but the whole system and world order is nuts and we need something new.
If you are worried about people holding factually incorrect or wrong beliefs, e.g. delusions, then advocate for decentralized media, unbiased news organizations, etc. Help elevate voices that help others to climb out of their delusions and fear.
These people don’t have power over others like Trump.
These are the people voting Trump in, dude, you cant actually be this dense
You aren’t responsible for other’s beliefs
No, but I do try to make the world a less stupid place when I can
You are loosely reveling in their suffering, whether you realize it or not.
If they’re too stupid to learn basic science then I reeeeally don’t care
They are very concerned and are likely vulnerable individuals.
Ok? They’re also very stupid individuals, I don’t care at all what makes them believe the blatantly stupid thing, only that they refuse to accept reality
Seriously, why single them out for going a little crazy?
Because it’s a very obvious and easy one to point out. There are posts about other delusions all the time, this one just happened to be about these specific people
If you are worried about people holding factually incorrect or wrong beliefs, e.g. delusions, then advocate for decentralized media, unbiased news organizations, etc.
I also do this. Weird of you to assume that someone on Lemmy doesn’t just because they also don’t respect people who refuse to think
You’re doing an awful lot of defending of people who are choosing to behave the way they do, it’s weird. Gonna file you in with them and call it a day, you don’t seem to be too far from them in the ol’ comprehension skill
These are the people voting Trump in, dude, you cant actually be this dense
Of course these individuals share responsibility for potentially voting for him, but we ALL share responsibility for him rising to power.
No, but I do try to make the world a less stupid place when I can
We don’t need to call out stupidity to make it a better place. Expressing yourself with clarity and confidence of thought is infinitely better.
If they’re too stupid to learn basic science then I reeeeally don’t care
You don’t need to care about any of this.
Ok? They’re also very stupid individuals, I don’t care at all what makes them believe the blatantly stupid thing, only that they refuse to accept reality
If somebody you love is frightened (in a general sense), what would you do? Calming them down and helping to see the truth would be one potential path to ease their suffering. What would making fun of them do?
You’re doing an awful lot of defending of people who are choosing to behave the way they do, it’s weird. Gonna file you in with them and call it a day, you don’t seem to be too far from them in the ol’ comprehension skill
Do what you want, I’m not going to apologize for my behavior or take it personally. If my crime is being too empathetic, guess I’m guilty.
Chemtrails are broadly believed to be nefarious chemicals that alter everything from weather (to facilitate global warming, not to prevent it) to human/animal hormones. While exhaust is no doubt harmful, when conspiracy theorists speak of chemtrails, they are speaking of shady government operatives intentionally loading the planes with experimental chemicals that are meant to be rained down onto the masses.
Can you blame them when the US government has directly experimented on the American populace in past?
e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea-Spray
From the page:
239 open-air tests of biological agents in a 20 year period. Many, many people are still alive from that time period. It’s not that long ago.
Or more broadly, just look at this page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States
Do those pages inspire trust in the government and military? Would you know if you were being experimented on and gaslit?
Corporations engage in similar unethical behavior, like putting ingredients that are known to be toxic or harmful to human health in products we consume or put on our bodies.
Instead of blaming or name-calling people who are paranoid or suspicious, we need a society with a greater focus on human rights — with more regulation and oversight. A society that inspires trust, with the facts, ethics, and independent review to back it up.
You’re leaving out the massively important fact that a basic science fact that one can experiment and experience themselves on a cool morning is enough to destroy these idiots. If your world view is that fragile then you deserve all mockery you get for holding it continually
Why go out of your way to disprove them, laugh at them, or name-call them? You can just empathize with them.
For me, I’d rather address why the government HAS felt it had the right to experiment on us. I can NOT blame these individuals for treading into delusion with our current system being the way it is, especially considering the history.
They’re willingly living in stupidity. If we just let people do that we get people like Trump, so Id rather avoid that
Neither can I, but as I said you’re purposefully ignoring a big part of what’s being discussed: the part where they don’t ever tread back out of delusion. There’s 0 defense for that
Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and mainstream media played a pretty big role in Trump’s rise to power. Everybody is responsible for his rise to power, but the facts are facts. They intentionally elevated him.
These people don’t have power over others like Trump.
You aren’t responsible for other’s beliefs. You are loosely reveling in their suffering, whether you realize it or not. They are very concerned and are likely vulnerable individuals.
Plenty of things happen in this world that each respective populace doesn’t consent to.
Seriously, why single them out for going a little crazy? It’s not like I haven’t pointed at somebody and laughed in the past, so no judgement here, but the whole system and world order is nuts and we need something new.
If you are worried about people holding factually incorrect or wrong beliefs, e.g. delusions, then advocate for decentralized media, unbiased news organizations, etc. Help elevate voices that help others to climb out of their delusions and fear.
These are the people voting Trump in, dude, you cant actually be this dense
No, but I do try to make the world a less stupid place when I can
If they’re too stupid to learn basic science then I reeeeally don’t care
Ok? They’re also very stupid individuals, I don’t care at all what makes them believe the blatantly stupid thing, only that they refuse to accept reality
Because it’s a very obvious and easy one to point out. There are posts about other delusions all the time, this one just happened to be about these specific people
I also do this. Weird of you to assume that someone on Lemmy doesn’t just because they also don’t respect people who refuse to think
You’re doing an awful lot of defending of people who are choosing to behave the way they do, it’s weird. Gonna file you in with them and call it a day, you don’t seem to be too far from them in the ol’ comprehension skill
Of course these individuals share responsibility for potentially voting for him, but we ALL share responsibility for him rising to power.
We don’t need to call out stupidity to make it a better place. Expressing yourself with clarity and confidence of thought is infinitely better.
You don’t need to care about any of this.
If somebody you love is frightened (in a general sense), what would you do? Calming them down and helping to see the truth would be one potential path to ease their suffering. What would making fun of them do?
Do what you want, I’m not going to apologize for my behavior or take it personally. If my crime is being too empathetic, guess I’m guilty.