• Elextra@literature.cafe
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    19 hours ago

    My employer has DEI but to prevent cuts from funding, they just changed the name and kept the policies. Its unfortunate but its better than having these policies and programs cut.

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      Trump: We have to end dei. It’s ugly and bad and super scary.

      Companies: Just rename it. That talking Cheeto can’t read the policy anyway.

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          Pitito Cheetolini is my go-to… Small cock cheeto-faced Benito Mussolini wannabe fuck.

          (If that’s unclear… El pito pequeño means he has a small whistle (cock). Adding -ito at the end of words in Spanish means, like, the little form. Perro, dog. Perrito, puppy/little dog. So pito, whistle. Pitito, little whistle. And it all sounds like Benito Mussolini. That small hand, little dick, rapist, felon cheeto-faced dictator fuck.)

          Another good one is Shitler Cheetolini.

          Sorry. We were so fucking close to never having to think about this fucker ever again for the rest of our lives. Now it’s the same as the last decade+ and I’m so pissed about it.

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        No, it’s called myED. It’s almost the same but not as firm as it used to be…

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      18 hours ago

      That sounds like an overall positive outcome, at least compared to many corporations or there…?

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      I don’t quite agree. On the one hand, all of those companies that publicly caved to Trump are f****** terrible. On the other hand, a lot of DEI policies are actually basic common sense, because if you want to get skilled employees, it’s pretty ridiculous to exclude everyone who’s not white male. Which is to say, if companies have similar policies to what they had before even using a different name, it’s probably good for them and their employees, even if their cowardice is bad for the nation.

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        Its kind of like when racial quotas were struck down by the courts for colleges. I dont think we need to have quotas for racial categories of people, but the school can still overall choose for diversity in any given instance without having legit racial quotas. They can see the diversity of any applicant as a benefit to their application over a student who does not offer that perspective.

        The law cant say “universities arent allowed to value diversity” but its fair that it can say “schools arent allowed to admit based on ‘we want X amount of Y race of people’”

        Overall, a system that just recognizes, values, and attempts to incorporate diverse perspectives is far better than something like racial quotas, even though they are both “DEI”

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        9 hours ago

        That was a long sentence, what do you disagree with though?

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      21 hours ago

      It never should have been loud in the first place. Just have them. Do them. It doesn’t even need to be called DEI. These are things that should exist as a norm.

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        21 hours ago

        Exactly. And if you want DEI removed, you’re gonna have to define it for me. Cause all I hear is “woman and minorities.”

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          I like to ask them which letter of DEI they think is the worst one and watch them realize they can’t answer without being a bad person.

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        Honestly, I feel like most companies didn’t do a big marketing thing about this stuff. If was commenting that pretty much just got promoted on the careers page so applicants knew about the company culture

        Also, because HR usually owns the careers page, and DEI teams usually roll in HR

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          To me if they made a big deal about it, it’s because they weren’t actually making a big deal about it. Where are the metrics?

          If I work for a company that has a DEI policy, and I think my manager fired me because they don’t like something about me that falls into that category, there’s not much recourse for that because there is a DEI policy in place so obviously it was my “job performance.”

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    It’s a shame ‘DEI’ has become so political. Generally speaking, these policies strengthen teams and improve outcomes. Even in terms of biology, non-diverse populations are (typically) less likely to survive long term.

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      People think it means ‘affirmative action’. Like straight up. Those people who complain most are almost always making it sound like it’s only there to give people jobs which shouldn’t have them.

      What it was intended for was to increase diversity, hence ‘D’, which improves the amount of perspectives and views and capabilities. This diversity strengthens teams in businesses.

      People seem to think it means: ‘hand jobs over to people who are minorities, just because’

      It’s so incredibly stupid and frustrating.

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      19 hours ago

      My defense for them was that it seems investment banks, who are loathe to lose money, seemed to retain these policies which suggests they make them more money.

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      19 hours ago

      100%. Theres a lot of studies on DEI that shows it does save money while making people at work happier, more satisfied and better work outcomes overall. They’re really a win win for all.

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    They only ever had them because it was good for neo-liberal capitalist business.

    They’re not real allies, which should be obvious by how quickly they jerked their policies away on the whims of a dictator.

    That shows they don’t actually have those values, just see opportunities they’ll take if they think there’s money and political benefits coming.