• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    ?

    Barbie does whatever makes the corporation money…

    They’d 100% release an actual ICE Barbie if they thought it would make money.

    Fuck fascists and all that, but it doesn’t mean we have to defend corporations that will sell us out for a slightly higher short term profit margin

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      19 hours ago

      I’m talking about Barbie, the fictional character. Growing up watching and loving the direct-to-video Barbie movies, I’m certain that Barbie absolutely would never.

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        19 hours ago

        Barbie isn’t sentient…

        A corporation decides what she would or would not do.

        The recent movie was all about female empowerment, but if the corp decides the far right would give them more money, then the sequel will be about how great working at a concentration camp is.

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          19 hours ago

          Omg, I’m literally not talking about corporations, though? Barbie is a well-established character. It embodies a concept.

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            19 hours ago

            My bad, didn’t realize you were a 12 hour account, we’ve probably been thru something like this on your last account too.

            No worries, I’ll handle it.

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              18 hours ago

              I mentioned Barbie, a fictional character, and you responded as if I had deified Mattel. I clarified what I meant, but you continued with an unprompted anti-capitalism rant and even insinuated that I’m a troll. Very mature and pleasant of you. P.S. As someone whose country already endured 42 years of communist, anti-West/anti-capitalist rule, please spare me the anti-capitalism rant next time. Thanks.

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                18 hours ago

                fascism wears many hats. these tankie motherfuckers wear the bolshevik-fascism hat. they don’t understand that we can take a stock character given to us by a corporation, like barbie, and run with it as an aspect of remix culture because they are domination culture colonisers who cosplay as anti-imperialists. they are just as dangerous and nonsensical as ancaps.

                good for you for knowing enough about who you are and what you’re about to stay strong in “this isn’t about the corporation but the stock character”

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          19 hours ago

          I mean… the movie kinda points that out, too. The exec straight-up changes his tune on the idea of a realistic Barbie when he’s told it will sell.

          It does a pretty good job of pointing out all aspects of Barbie, good and bad. From female empowerment to consumerism to the objectification of women and the issues surrounding body shaming.

          It even calls out the film itself for casting an unrealistically beautiful, successful woman to play Barbie.

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            18 hours ago

            And it did all of that because some executive thought that would make the most money…

            If they thought the opposite message would have made more money, that’s what the character would have done.

            Like, I dunno.

            It doesn’t seem that complicated to me, but apparently it is.

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              17 hours ago

              If art is good, I’ll appreciate it even when the people funding it aren’t doing it for the love of art.

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                17 hours ago

                Nothing wrong with that, I really enjoyed it too.

                But that doesn’t mean the next movie will be the same.

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      19 hours ago

      Are you comparing an ordinary, common toy to a top fascist government official? They’re referring to Barbie the cartoon character. Deranged though she is, Kristi Noem isn’t some piece of plastic getting stamped out by the millions and sold to children for playtime.

      Fuck BigCorp, sure, but it doesn’t mean we always need to assign a deeper meaning to someone’s post beyond what they’ve said

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      14 hours ago

      Had the same thought. I hadn’t heard the term and I totally believed Mattel had just released an I. C. E Barbie. I’m sure they track in focus groups and we probably aren’t too far off from that model flipping to being net profitable despite the poor liberal press.

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      16 hours ago

      I agree they totally would do this if they thought it would make money.

      But I think they realize by doing an ICE Barbie they would piss off and alienate a lot of customers. So they are not touching this with a ten foot baton.