• zbyte64@awful.systems
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    With you up until bringing the far left into this. What does universal healthcare, trans rights or taxing billionaires have to do with the surveillance state, aside from dismantling it?

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      I would argue that universal healthcare, trans rights and taxing billionaires are not far left, but Im not American.

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          Maybe when we say far left or right we really mean authoritarian? Either way democracy seems to be on the back foot rn.

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          Yes but that doesn’t mean it’s a far left topic. This is the problem in politics nobody has the ability to understand that even an individual political system is an entire political Spectrum onto its own. Be it right or left.

      • QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works
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        9 hours ago

        The Woke Group is closer to being Neo-Liberal than actual Left

        I’m a real Leftist, I don’t care about policing language, I’m actually against it. What I want is Universal Healthcare and Trans Rights.

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        Far left is guillotines, this is just someone with issues (I don’t mean her opinion but the fact that she has to try and “calm herself”)

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          20 hours ago

          No, thats a performative cunt. Its funny how you can recognise them so easily when they thing you dont like, but are so utterly confused when they say things you agree with. Almost like you have your own little agenda or something?

          I mean, on the subject of trans people. It never seems to enter anyones heads that they amount of hate transwomen get is because people see them as men. And its actually an extension of the extreme misandry the online world has embraced. Thats why we never talk about trans men, because they are still seen as women. But the far left, or woke, or whatever other name you wanna give them, wont ever admit that. Because they want to call “all men” scum who need to be taught not to rape, while at the same time shouting that transwomen are safe because they are women. They dont dare tackle the elephant in the room, which is that that they agree with what the far right is saying, under certain circumstances.

          Anyone, and I mean anyone, that speaks of any group as being a monolith, is a bigot. No ifs, no ands, no buts. All men, all women, all black people, all Dutch people, whatever is all the start of the same bigoted sentence. And “the left” does this every bit as much as “the right”.

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            I am a transwoman against misandry and I wanna say you’ve got it figured out. People only think transwomen are dangerous because they think we’re men, and we live in a society where “All men are predators, all women are victims.”

            But the misandrists are the Neo Liberals, The REAL Far Left tend to be more egalitarian.