Trump was aided heavily in the 2016, 2020, and 2024 elections by Russia, who was funded by China to destabilize the US while Russia takes the brunt of the US retaliation.
We’ve known since 2015 that Donald Trump was a Russian asset, our security agencies told us.
Like most issues these days, nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Trump is just the symptom, he’s not the disease. He has thousands of enablers and supporters throughout government, including the Supreme Court.
If we got rid of Trump tomorrow, the disease would remain; those thousands of people won’t disappear. This could not happen in a healthy republic, we’re far beyond that now. Super PACs rule and cash is king; both parties are not the same, but they are both bought.
Did you know that foreign countries can also “influence” our parties through Super PACs? Our representatives don’t work for “us” any longer, we don’t have enough cash to compete against multi-generational corporations and foreign governments.
And our only legal recourse is to ask our representatives to stop gorging themselves. They will not.
Trump is destroying the future of America to serve Putin.
Nothing more American than blaming all your problems on Russia
From the FBI report in 2016: https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/
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The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion.
So pretending this didn’t lead to Trump in 2016 (and likely now) is what Americans should do according to you?
Yeah. Let’s not at all remember how much saner things were before 2016. That has nothing to do with our national security being openly exploited to the point Russian propaganda is now appearing on our news stations.
… the Russian state broadcaster RT orchestrated a massive scheme to influence the American public by secretly planting and financing a content creation company on U.S. soil,” said U.S. Attorney Damian Williams for the Southern District of New York.
This is all just a coincidence, and definitley how our democracy has always been, right?
Sounds to be right out of Americas destabilization play book.
Takes one to know one. Bad is still bad. Even if we’ve been the ones to do it. Now we’re too busy rounding up anyone that isn’t white because our government is a kakistocracy in full reverse. Thankfully we’re too stupid to destabilize much but ourselves now.
But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t still be trying to help those most affected by it. Just because America designed the hose of misinformation that Russia is now using to destabilize world Democracy doesn’t mean we should passively accept it being blasted everywhere.
I mean, if you feel we’re responsible, shouldn’t we be the ones to fix it if Russia clearly isn’t?
to serve himself.
Leave it to nytimes to push such a simplifying, party-lines division dumbass narrative. No, it’s rich people fucking over poor people, as per always. But we can’t publish that!
Trump isn’t doing this alone. He can only do this with the blessing of the Republicans and their oligarch masters. And they are all making unimaginable fortunes from doing it, which seems to me to be more of an incentive for them doing it.
Want to actually own the libs!?
Get the FBI to release the unedited complete Epstein jail video.
Also release the remaining epstien files.
Boy that would really show them up.
get the fbi to stop being such pussy bitches period and actually respect their oaths.
Release the Epstein files
No he’s doing it to enrich himself. The people who vote for him are doing it to own the libs, at the expense of their own financial stability and future.
And to stay out of prison, don’t forget that. If he hadn’t stolen the election, he’d be in prison right now, with more time on the way.
One of many t things I don’t get about his groupies. They have four years to exploit the country where they are effectively above the law, but how can they not expect justice after that? They should all be considering whether they’re going to prison in five years
The wheel of justice eventually coming around is my only hope. And I live for the day that Trump legacy comes crashing down upon them
First of all, they ALL believe fervently that they will rule forever, no matter what it takes, up to and including literally killing Democrats, of it has to come to that.
Secondly, they believe, and rightfully so, based on history, that the Democrats will do absolutely nothing to punish them in any substantial way.
IF the Dems ever regain power, it will only be because an extremely intelligent candidate stepped up who is willing to go toe-to-toe, and play Hard Ball with the MAGA Nazis. If that person gets elected, and continues with the classic Democratic bluff strategy, (with EVERYBODY knowing their cards) then MAGAs, or something far worse, will regain power in the NEXT election, and then we’re probably totally finished as a democracy.
The next Dem prez better come out kicking MAGA balls, or we’re screwed forever.
Who is going to put them in prison?
Even if the democrats come back into power, they’ll be too wussy to punish the genocidal maniacs who were in power before them
Always have been.
Politics has always pendulums back and forth. We may have swung way out in one direction but I still have hope it will swing back again, we will have elections again, people will want hope and change, want to add truth to the meaningless platitudes they made the mistake of voting for.
If we return to democracy, return to the rule of law, justice can happen
Sure, if that all happens, but it won’t. We’re in a new world now. Rachel Maddow said it the other night: We’re no longer waiting for IT to come, it’s here. All the things we were warning against during the campaign have now arrived, and will continue to arrive. We are no longer warning about the danger of a Fascist Government, we now have that Fascist Government.
So your confidence in fair elections, or even having elections at all, is misplaced.
Totally. It’ll happen in like 50 years. Many of us will be dead by then, including those in power rn.
agreed, libs are a scapegoat.
He’s not, he’s an idiot who legitimately doesn’t understand why what he’s doing isn’t working.
That’s infinitly more dangerous than someone who is intentionally breaking shit.
Hitler thought he was doing what was best for Germany…
And like Hitler, Trump isn’t acting alone. He has a gigantic staff of sycophants with their own agendas supporting him. Just like Hitler did.
he’s not only an idiot, he’s a puppet. hillary was spot-on with that assessment way back then.
A TV show host
*child rapist
Ya both, just saying his professional job has always been to be a name and celebrity personality.
The damage he’s causing isn’t the result of someone who’s trying to do good and failing. He is an enemy of the United States, deliberately doing as much damage as he can.
He may be an idiot, but thankfully so otherwise the comparisons to the Nazis circa 1930 would be a lot more direct.
He is 100% doing anything he can think of to improve the economy…
He’s just shit at it and can’t.
He is also 100% doing evil shit on social issues, but he thinks they’re not evil because he’s racist and bigoted.
And things would be much worse if he was competent at that part too
George W. Bush was an idiot. A man who legitimately didn’t understand politics. He was a puppet, just like Trump. But Trump knows he has power and he uses it purposefully to make people mad. He’s like someone who argues online for dopamine, except it’s controlling a country.
Interesting idea to explain everything - mango Mussolini is merely an internet troll arguing and stoking outrage. Yet somehow the moderators haven’t banned him. Somehow his outraged leaked into reality
It’s like that one user who runs around doing whatever they want because they know the mods. Occasionally they might get a 24 hour ban for being really bad, but that’s just for show. It will never be permanent and ultimately if you want them to stop you have to find where they live and do it yourself.
I would argue there is a pretty good angle from the Eisenhower executive office building
he’s an idiot
You’re making a major mistake
What?
Do people legitimately believe the “5d chess” shit?
He’s a complete and total idiot, even before the normal effects of aging scrambled his brain. That’s not disputable. Donald Trump is a complete idiot
No one thinks he’s playing 5d chess except the fucking rubes.
And yeah he’s an idiot. But he’s not like a bumbling guy with bad ideas because he doesn’t understand how things work. It’s a mistake to think this.
Trump is doing things very intentionally. Silencing the press, crashing the government and economy in ways that benefit the wealthy.
He’s doing shit for him, not for you. When you position it like “Trump is an idiot! He’s doing the presidency thing very wrong” your mistake is that he’s “doing the presidency thing”. He’s doing the private equity thing.
Billionaires have become billionaires without being a president and can hold way more sway and power over things than being a president and without being held to short terms.
there are many easier ways to self serve.
So if you thought this was a play : He’s doing it hard mode and unsustainably so.
he’s suffering with dementia. Do not confuse malice with simple stupidity.
It’s kind of both. Trump is a moron and some of what he does is failing and he doesn’t understand why, but some of it is also working exactly like he planned. Trump is and always has been a conman. He is not a businessman, he is a conman. That’s a very critical thing to understand. Everything he does is a grift of some kind, it’s his default operating mode.
Every action he takes he intends to either enrich himself or attack someone he doesn’t like. He never does anything that will benefit someone else unless he sees some way in which he can also benefit. He will always opt for the scummiest solution to any problem because he likes to feel like he “tricked” someone or got one over on them, that it somehow proves he’s a brilliant businessman. He genuinely believes that scammer and businessman are the same thing.
I don’t doubt he thinks it is some sort of 5 d chess. But he’s still suffering with dementia and a healthy dose of narcissism making him completely useless. Even the people he is playing puppet to are going to get fucked hard and it’s not even the plan. It’s just how dementia works and how fools who think they are using someone (and it is elder abuse) are really the creation and fall of their own making. They stupidly thought he was just a hype man with stern dad energy.
They had no idea they were playing with pure chaos.
He genuinely believes that scammer and businessman are the same thing.
which actually, if you look at how “great businessmen” from history had amassed their fortunes, isn’t that far from the truth. It’s not exactly right, but it’s not exactly wrong, either. Someone was always getting fucked in the process, it was usually just their employees instead of their business partners.
It’s not about 5d chess or something. It’s about inaction - basically because he’s an idiot means that we only need to wait and see until he hurts himself. It would be the major mistake as I’ve said before
Release the Epstein files you cowards!
*republicans
Big randy marsh energy
Yes. Yes, he is.
The Democrats own the libs. He’s owning all Americans and destroying the future for his own little empire of corruption, sin, and grift to rise. You are all sitting there and taking it while he destroys all institutions and corrupts every office with goons and yesmen. Y’all are fucked and just letting it happen. Guess we know how the Nazis rose to power, everyone was too busy to do something about it?!
I’m just curious. What, exactly, would you be doing to stop this? And tell me how you think it would work.
Rioting in the streets. Organized resistance. Not going into work, not paying mortgage/rent. You’re sitting through a passive civil war where all the “liberties” that were fought and died for in the past 100 years are being stripped away without due process and without legal recourse. What do you think you should be doing about it? Nothing? How’s that going?
So you recommend becoming homeless as the best solution?
You gotta do what you gotta do. I was implying concerted efforts, not just one person. They could take all your assets tomorrow if they wanted and no one could stop them. Are you going to wait until they knock on the door to act?
As with many people, it isn’t just about me. I am not willing to move my family and my elderly parent onto the streets at this stage.
The government could have taken all my assets at any point in the last 50 years if they wanted. We all have to deal with the current reality. I think we are still at a stage where protesting and voting may be enough to turn things around. Meanwhile, I am supporting local efforts to protect vulnerable people from the new policies. There is organized resistance and it is scaling up.
I disagree with you outside of extreme circumstance, the government wasn’t coming for your anything, except maybe your vote. Now, if you show dessent, if you’re the wrong skin colour, if you’re the wrong political party, he wants your stuff, and you in jail or out of the country. By word and action. And do you think he’s lining the government coffers or his own with all that booty? Corruption all the way down. Seized as proceeds of made up crime, who’s gonna stop them?
Understand that I don’t entirely disagree with you. Particularly on the first two points. Not going into work and not paying for housing are only effective if large numbers of other people are doing it too. We may get to that point, organized resistance is happening, but anyone doing those things right now is simply going to become homeless and desperate.
People rarely take actions that they know will destroy their lives unless they feel that they have nothing further to lose. More people are reaching that point every day and that may eventually make that kind of resistance effective. For better or worse, the average citizen is not there yet. I hope the growing protest movement will force changes first. It is still early days.
Some of us are working on steps just like the ones you list. I absolutely agree, every American has a responsibility to help end this ongoing nightmare.
“This is how liberty dies…with thunderous applause”- Padme Amidala, Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith
