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Ryzen life.
Same and also went with Radeon graphics this time. Very happy with my decision.
Man I just hate that you can’t disable the PSP spyware bullshit. It’s the only reason I don’t use them
What?I looked it up but don’t understand it.
Its a “trusted” execution environment for the system. So basically, it has access over your entire system and there’s no way to know what it is doing because it is proprietary and many people and third party security groups have expressed concerns about it before and asked them to open source the code that runs it and they will not do it.
Intel has a similar system the Intel Management Engine but you can disable that after bootup and also run it on open source bios so that it is essentially neutered. You cannot do that with AMD.
The NSA disables and removes Intel ME on their systems, so it seems like there’s a very real threat from these proprietary systems that have complete and entire control over every aspect of the machine and software running it.
So you called it spyware but now you say you dont know what it is doing. So which one is it?
The fact that you can’t discern what it is doing and it can’t be disabled makes it invasive software. There’s no shortage of qualified experts who agree with what I said and many others who point out glaring security vulnerabilities that come with using it. I linked a few for your convenience.
https://www.eteknix.com/nsa-may-backdoors-built-intel-amd-processors/
https://www.theregister.com/2018/01/06/amd_cpu_psp_flaw/
https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-PSP-Disable-Option
I’d say with all of the above at the very least its invasive software that has complete access to your system and all of its files and processes.
Spyware by definition is “Any malicious software that is designed to take partial or full control of a computer’s operation without the knowledge of its user.” The fact that you can’t look into what all it can do makes it capable of doing this.
Perhaps I’m being pedantic, but even in your quoted definition we don’t know that it’s spyware. Because 1) we don’t know if it takes full control 2) it’s there with our knowledge. I still can’t agree to your conclusion in your first comment that it is. It might be, but I’d phrase that differently.
blablabla more blabbering around the point below: just pure speculation of what it could possibly be worst case scenario.
Spyware by definition is “Any malicious software"
Cool, but since you have no idea whether or not its malicious calling it spyware is false.
Media definition of spyware for data privacy purposes is exactly that. The difference here is that this is a tool that can be leveraged to make a copy of all the data in your computer and put it on the cloud, among other things. Tik tok and Facebook can’t do that and are subject to much bigger scrutiny.
And people laughed at me for sticking with my MOS 6502. Who’s laughing now?
I recently built a 12th Gen PC, expecting an upgrade to 13th Gen will be a cheap and significant upgrade path soon. Now there isn’t going to be any way to know if a second-hand CPU is damaged in this way.
Used to be that a CPU was the safest used pc part to buy… not anymore :/
That’s why I went this route 🫤
Well at least it will be cheaper
Real shit, can you sue them for this? I mean they aren’t stopping selling them even knowing they are faulty. Seriously, how can you get your money back from these vultures.
What did they mess from 12th?
13th & 14th Gen were just higher voltage and clock speed and boost time limit versions of 12th Gen. It seems like they just over did it
Holy crap I barely escaped. I needed an upgrade years ago and settled on the i7-12700k. After I ride this chip out I’m switching to AMD.
I really hope customers get justice in this debacle. We need a lawsuit now.
Money grab because they didn’t have anything new to actually bring to the table this time.
13th and 14th gen are literally the exact same hardware as 12th gen, but with boosted clock speeds and power requirements. Basically, intel is struggling to develop new hardware, as they’re beginning to be limited by things like atom size and the speed of light across the width of the chip. So instead of developing new hardware, they just slapped new code onto the 12th gen chips and called them a new generation.
But they made the rookie mistake of not adequately dealing with heat dissipation (which is easy to make when overclocking,) and chips are burning out.
Vote with your wallet and don’t ever get anything from this piece of shit trash ass company again. What a joke. They aren’t even stopping selling them KNOWING there’s an issue. Wish I had money to sue the fuck out of them.
So glad I spent like $2K on a computer with one of these in it that has custom firmware and BIOS on it. Guess I’m just fucked eh? Never buying Intel ever again.
I have one in the box from Christmas. Kinda scared to use it.
It really sucks that the only chips that support openbios and custom firmware is from such a shit company like this.
WHY will AMD and Nvidia not support it? I’m running out of options. Guess I’ll just stick with old ass computers from now on.
FUCK Intel.
