U.S. President Donald Trump on Sunday repeated his claim that people on the political "left" are to blame for assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk in Utah last week.
    • chrischryse@lemmy.world
      101·
      5 hours ago

      I’m be heard he had a trans roommate but still sus on that given only right wing news sites are saying

      I’m gonna get downvoted but I have a hard time trusting both sides. I just want this shit to end

      • blattrules@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        5 hours ago

        Yeah I saw that the governor is pushing that one. The governor seems to be grasping at anything that implicates him as a lefty though, while publicly saying that he would say the opposite if it were true. Just the fact that he’s disseminating information like that before anything is verified, to me, means that he’s trying to prove his narrative and not looking for answers. Also, the guy having a trans roommate and possible relationship with them could be damning of him being a righty too.

    • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
      62·
      6 hours ago

      You’re in an echo chamber. There’s been conflicting evidence but no clear ideology that I have seen confirmed. The left is only focused on the evidence he was a right winger and if you go to right-wing forums they’re fixated on the things that suggest he was left-wing.

      But we really don’t know for sure. Which still makes Trump’s actions unhinged but that usually goes without saying.

      • jj4211@lemmy.world
        3·
        1 hour ago

        One of the few things they seem to concretely know is that he acted alone, which makes the call unhinged no matter the ideology.

        • Liljekonvalj@feddit.org
          2·
          1 hour ago

          That is still all it is to it. Dont get confused. You can call a turd a sandwich all day, doesn’t ever make it true.

      • meco03211@lemmy.world
        4·
        5 hours ago

        I’d also wonder if such a young person has a fully fleshed out position. It’s easy to fall victim to the endless stream of thought terminating clichés the right employs. It’s also easy to happen upon a situation that seriously calls to question some position previously solidified by those thought terminating clichés. There’s reports he lived with a transgender partner. If you’ve bought into a lot of the hate against transgender people but then suddenly meet one that’s kinda hot and into you, I can see that throwing your whole world into a tailspin.

        • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
          3·
          4 hours ago

          I mean, fleshed out enough to do what they did, I’m at least from their own perspective.

          And then people pushing back on this being a groyper are ignoring the preponderance of (current) evidence.

          The only that suggested this was a left-winger was a completely unhinged 48 hours of initial media coverage where they simply decided it was a left winger to begin with. That’s not evidence.

          • meco03211@lemmy.world
            1·
            2 hours ago

            I mean, fleshed out enough to do what they did, I’m at least from their own perspective.

            That’s not necessarily “fleshed out” in my opinion. That’s just conviction. I’d consider fleshed out to be something you’ve thoroughly explored. If you’re vehemently anti-trans yet have never met one then suddenly change course after meeting one, that wasn’t fleshed out. Now that whole example may or may not be true in this case. I certainly haven’t seen anywhere near enough info to confirm or deny. Just kinda a hypothetical using some of the reporting happening.

            • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
              1·
              53 minutes ago

              That’s not necessarily “fleshed out” in my opinion.

              Well sure but its not really your belief that matters. All that matters is that they believe they were justified in doing what they did. I mean they went ahead and did it. Its self evident, is it not?

              And I would hope for all of our sake, yours and mine included, that we’ve fleshed out our believes more sufficiently and more completely to not blame marginalized groups and individuals for the failures of a system. But then we’re not the one coming to the conclusion the shooter made either, are we?

  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
    172·
    5 hours ago

    Lol

    Lmao

    If fascists ever start going door kicking, they’re gonna start losing a lot of men.

    They’re too cowardly to ever make this happen.

    • ronigami@lemmy.world
      1·
      15 minutes ago

      They will use drones. Drones are being rolled out as an “early crime scene recon we promise” solution in small towns across America.