The people of Gaza voted for Hamas, an overtly terrorist group with a genocidal manifesto, as their elected government back in 20072006. Naturally that was their last election.
North Korea does not hold elections. China does not hold elections outside its ruling Communist Party. Russia holds occasional sham elections with stooge candidates.
The Palestinian election involved numerous parties and candidates, including leftist and liberals, and the Hamas victory was generally recognized as fair.
Clearly you have very little idea about this whole subject. I’d guess like most others here.
North Korea absolutely holds elections and they can even boast with having 100% voting participation. Their last election was 2019. And so does China…
Anyway, you can’t possible argue that Hamas is the legally elected government in Gaza after abolishing all other political parties and not holding an election for 20 years. Maybe they once was, but they’re no longer and not since a long time.
You obviously have even a less idea about this whole subject.
Given that you’ve clearly just looked these things up to justify yourself post-hoc, you should now know that there’s no comparison with sham plebiscites in totalitarian countries (China holds proper-ish elections, at local level only, and only for vetted Communist Party candidates).
My point stands. The people of Gaza chose Hamas, a genocidal terrorist group, in a free and fair election. That doesn’t justify what’s happening to them today, but it’s a fact.
Given that you’ve clearly just looked these things up
Even if I did, it is true, is it not? It is not that hard to admit when you are faulty. You can do it, I believe in you!
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No, your point is wrong and dumb. You proclaim Hamas to be the legally elected government which they maybe was in 2006, but as I said, that was almost 20 years go and after abolishing all political opposition. Now Hamas holds (held lmao) the same grip over Gaza as any other authoritarian regime does. And if you are still going to argue that this makes them the legal elected leaders, than China, Russia, Belarus, North Korea and whatever other state you want also has legally elected leaders and your arguing against their elections makes no sense.
Admit that I’ve got what wrong? I’ve only ever stated established facts. Many dictatorships are collapsed democracies. Russians also chose to abandon their democracy, having voted too many times for Putin.
Sure, the current situation is particularly unfair on the (very many) Gazans who were too young to vote 19 years ago. I’m sure we can agree on that.
I’ve only ever stated established facts.
North Korea does not hold elections. China does not hold elections outside its ruling Communist Party.
Although, China is a one-party state so you at least got that part right. On the other hand
totalitarian countries (China holds proper-ish elections[…])
China is not a totalitarian country (yet at least), so that is wrong…
Anyway, the current situation is particularly unfair to all Gazans who aren’t combatants, so that we can agree on.
I think it is clear to everyone else that Hamas is not the legal government in Gaza, and that is obviously nothing I can force you to change your mind about, but I, with friendliness, suggest you think about why you differ in reasoning between Hamas and other authoritarian regimes.
That is certainly discussable lmao
The people of Gaza voted for Hamas, an overtly terrorist group with a genocidal manifesto, as their elected government back in
20072006. Naturally that was their last election.During wars there is generally no elections let alone during occupation
And the people of North Korea, China, Russia etc etc vote for their government regularly.
North Korea does not hold elections. China does not hold elections outside its ruling Communist Party. Russia holds occasional sham elections with stooge candidates.
The Palestinian election involved numerous parties and candidates, including leftist and liberals, and the Hamas victory was generally recognized as fair.
Clearly you have very little idea about this whole subject. I’d guess like most others here.
North Korea absolutely holds elections and they can even boast with having 100% voting participation. Their last election was 2019. And so does China…
Anyway, you can’t possible argue that Hamas is the legally elected government in Gaza after abolishing all other political parties and not holding an election for 20 years. Maybe they once was, but they’re no longer and not since a long time.
You obviously have even a less idea about this whole subject.
Given that you’ve clearly just looked these things up to justify yourself post-hoc, you should now know that there’s no comparison with sham plebiscites in totalitarian countries (China holds proper-ish elections, at local level only, and only for vetted Communist Party candidates).
My point stands. The people of Gaza chose Hamas, a genocidal terrorist group, in a free and fair election. That doesn’t justify what’s happening to them today, but it’s a fact.
Even if I did, it is true, is it not? It is not that hard to admit when you are faulty. You can do it, I believe in you!
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No, your point is wrong and dumb. You proclaim Hamas to be the legally elected government which they maybe was in 2006, but as I said, that was almost 20 years go and after abolishing all political opposition. Now Hamas holds (held lmao) the same grip over Gaza as any other authoritarian regime does. And if you are still going to argue that this makes them the legal elected leaders, than China, Russia, Belarus, North Korea and whatever other state you want also has legally elected leaders and your arguing against their elections makes no sense.
Admit that I’ve got what wrong? I’ve only ever stated established facts. Many dictatorships are collapsed democracies. Russians also chose to abandon their democracy, having voted too many times for Putin.
Sure, the current situation is particularly unfair on the (very many) Gazans who were too young to vote 19 years ago. I’m sure we can agree on that.
Although, China is a one-party state so you at least got that part right. On the other hand
China is not a totalitarian country (yet at least), so that is wrong…
Anyway, the current situation is particularly unfair to all Gazans who aren’t combatants, so that we can agree on. I think it is clear to everyone else that Hamas is not the legal government in Gaza, and that is obviously nothing I can force you to change your mind about, but I, with friendliness, suggest you think about why you differ in reasoning between Hamas and other authoritarian regimes.