You got to include the part where the guy is, on average, significantly taller and stronger than you, and has already made clear that he wants to have sex with you
If anything she’s going to be even more careful than most women about this. The creepy guys that hang around outside waiting for her to get off work are doubtlessly more openly malicious, but it’s not as though the threat is somehow trivial for the average woman.
She worked & continues to work where dangerous authorities have threatened & can easily harm her without letting that deter her from openly criticizing them & reporting adverse information.
Here in a liberal society that punishes violence, where Karens tell off people for the dumbest reasons uninhibited, you defend the everyday, managed risks of a safer society everyone pretty much faces just fine as a great reason to deter people from plainly stating adverse information to nobodies in public.
No, the Kremlin not deterring her is nothing like letting risk aversion over regular nobodies in the relative safety of our free society deter anyone from speaking.
Do you know there are weaklings of every sex in our society who know their rights, and they’re not cowards about exchanging unpleasant words?
I’m struggling to find the context of this comment, but I want to know where it’s going. Personally I would rather encounter a woman. What point are you making?
Are you suggesting a woman is comparable to 600+ pounds of killing machine can run 20ish mph? …Or were you just making an assanine example for a bad faith argument.
Why not just suggest the predator or a wendigo if were going for nonsense. At least we can have fun with it then.
It seems more like you’re the one deliberately making a bad-faith argument by feigning ignorance of the meaning of the question, but what the heck, I’ll bite.
In case you didn’t know, the statement about bear vs stranger is simple: both could be dangerous. But the bear you know at a distance is dangerous, and bears are rather more predictable than humans. The stranger, on the other hand, is far less predictable, and you don’t know if they’re safe or dangerous until you get close.
After all, she/he could be crazy and carrying a gun, and you don’t need to be a speedy 600lb killing machine to be deadly with one of those.
I mean it’s a fundamentally different question when you ask it of a man versus a woman. Men are, on average, significantly taller and stronger and faster than women. When you ask that question of a man, it’s a choice between someone that could easily overpower and kill you or someone that you could easily defend yourself against. When you ask that question of a woman, it’s a choice between someone that could easily overpower and kill you, or someone that could easily overpower and kill you, and also likely wants to have sex with you
Well yes. But that twat was all up in the ‘not all men!’ and ‘women do bad stuff too!’ so I just opted to make it more gender-neutral so they wouldn’t derail the conversation with inanities again.
The problem is they found new ones lol. Anything but actually discussing the core issues and their personal issues, I guess.
Tbf, if I’m in the woods, I also have a gun, guaranteed. But I also run into men, women, pairs, sometimes whole groups, of people in the woods regularly (as ya do, it’s really not that unusual of an occurrence) and guess what happens most of the time: Nothing. They continue along their trail minding their business, I go off trail to smoke weed and look for cool salamanders. Hell on occasion I’ve smoked the weed with the strangers, and weed is still illegal in my locale. Not once has it been life threatening (that always seems to happen in parking lots so far, ime) or even a generic fight, not even so much as a squabble nor an argument (unless I brought my friend who says Dragon Ball sucks but he’s WRONG!)
If I’m guaranteed a fight, and know I’ll be in bear country so I can have an appropriate gun? I’d choose the bear for the simple fact that talking to that game warden is going to be easier than convincing 12 jurors a woman just came at me with a gun in the woods, sure.
But if I’m not guaranteed a fight? Experience has shown me that more likely than fight, the stranger will politely nod and keep moving, or smoke a J with me, maybe even one they brought. I’ll choose the people.
Bad faith is the example being offered. I simply defined how much nonsense it contained to combat it. OP used that bad example to reinforce their own opinion while leaving somone with the choice of “cake or death.” It is quite literally an argument - being made in bad faith. The answer itself is irrelevant.
Where in the comic does it say ‘all men do this’? Because that seems to be your interpretation.
It seems you’re projecting quite a lot onto this comic for some reason, and you’re driven to fight to prove your interpretation of the comic isn’t true. You might want to do some introspection and think about why that is.
Are you genuinely trying to defend using that terrible argument with: “yo but bears and people can be in the woods”
By that logic I might as well ask somone if they like sardines or would rather be in a plane crash.
Where in the comic does it say ‘all men do this’? Because that seems to be your interpretation.
I at no point made such an assertion. I’m sure I know what you think you are referring to…but you go ahead and point out where you think I said that - and I’m happy to discuss it.
It seems you’re projecting quite a lot onto this comic for some reason, and you’re driven to fight to prove your interpretation of the comic isn’t true.
Where would I be projecting myself into this comic? Genuinely asking.
You might want to do some introspection and think about why that is.
That’s a quite a lofty position you appear to be trying to speak down to me from. I chuckled.
Just be honest…to the potentially dangerous PoS who might attack you, follow you home, stalk you, worse…
You got to include the part where the guy is, on average, significantly taller and stronger than you, and has already made clear that he wants to have sex with you
So, don’t be Elena Kostyuchenko in the slightest. Great message.
If anything she’s going to be even more careful than most women about this. The creepy guys that hang around outside waiting for her to get off work are doubtlessly more openly malicious, but it’s not as though the threat is somehow trivial for the average woman.
She worked & continues to work where dangerous authorities have threatened & can easily harm her without letting that deter her from openly criticizing them & reporting adverse information.
Here in a liberal society that punishes violence, where Karens tell off people for the dumbest reasons uninhibited, you defend the everyday, managed risks of a safer society everyone pretty much faces just fine as a great reason to deter people from plainly stating adverse information to nobodies in public. No, the Kremlin not deterring her is nothing like letting risk aversion over regular nobodies in the relative safety of our free society deter anyone from speaking.
Do you know there are weaklings of every sex in our society who know their rights, and they’re not cowards about exchanging unpleasant words?
This is why we need to force people to take a test on the cooperative principle and Grice’s maxims before they’re allowed to comment on the internet
That could literally be anyone, yes, also women.
You can live your life permanently paranoid, or worse, paranoid with prejudice. Or you could grow up.
You’re in the woods, alone.
Would you rather encounter a woman, or a bear?
I’m not trusting anyone I randomly come across in the woods.
I saw the bear. Easy choice.
They are friend shaped.
I’m struggling to find the context of this comment, but I want to know where it’s going. Personally I would rather encounter a woman. What point are you making?
So… What exactly are you comparing to the bear? The woman or the man?
Sorry mate. You walked into the same “bear trap” I did. Point out the flaw in the argument and you apparently are a public menace 😅
Are you suggesting a woman is comparable to 600+ pounds of killing machine can run 20ish mph? …Or were you just making an assanine example for a bad faith argument.
Why not just suggest the predator or a wendigo if were going for nonsense. At least we can have fun with it then.
It seems more like you’re the one deliberately making a bad-faith argument by feigning ignorance of the meaning of the question, but what the heck, I’ll bite.
In case you didn’t know, the statement about bear vs stranger is simple: both could be dangerous. But the bear you know at a distance is dangerous, and bears are rather more predictable than humans. The stranger, on the other hand, is far less predictable, and you don’t know if they’re safe or dangerous until you get close.
After all, she/he could be crazy and carrying a gun, and you don’t need to be a speedy 600lb killing machine to be deadly with one of those.
And that is why women chose the bear.
I mean it’s a fundamentally different question when you ask it of a man versus a woman. Men are, on average, significantly taller and stronger and faster than women. When you ask that question of a man, it’s a choice between someone that could easily overpower and kill you or someone that you could easily defend yourself against. When you ask that question of a woman, it’s a choice between someone that could easily overpower and kill you, or someone that could easily overpower and kill you, and also likely wants to have sex with you
Well yes. But that twat was all up in the ‘not all men!’ and ‘women do bad stuff too!’ so I just opted to make it more gender-neutral so they wouldn’t derail the conversation with inanities again.
The problem is they found new ones lol. Anything but actually discussing the core issues and their personal issues, I guess.
Tbf, if I’m in the woods, I also have a gun, guaranteed. But I also run into men, women, pairs, sometimes whole groups, of people in the woods regularly (as ya do, it’s really not that unusual of an occurrence) and guess what happens most of the time: Nothing. They continue along their trail minding their business, I go off trail to smoke weed and look for cool salamanders. Hell on occasion I’ve smoked the weed with the strangers, and weed is still illegal in my locale. Not once has it been life threatening (that always seems to happen in parking lots so far, ime) or even a generic fight, not even so much as a squabble nor an argument (unless I brought my friend who says Dragon Ball sucks but he’s WRONG!)
If I’m guaranteed a fight, and know I’ll be in bear country so I can have an appropriate gun? I’d choose the bear for the simple fact that talking to that game warden is going to be easier than convincing 12 jurors a woman just came at me with a gun in the woods, sure.
But if I’m not guaranteed a fight? Experience has shown me that more likely than fight, the stranger will politely nod and keep moving, or smoke a J with me, maybe even one they brought. I’ll choose the people.
Bad faith is the example being offered. I simply defined how much nonsense it contained to combat it. OP used that bad example to reinforce their own opinion while leaving somone with the choice of “cake or death.” It is quite literally an argument - being made in bad faith. The answer itself is irrelevant.
No, they didn’t? This literally happens?
Where in the comic does it say ‘all men do this’? Because that seems to be your interpretation.
It seems you’re projecting quite a lot onto this comic for some reason, and you’re driven to fight to prove your interpretation of the comic isn’t true. You might want to do some introspection and think about why that is.
Are you genuinely trying to defend using that terrible argument with: “yo but bears and people can be in the woods”
By that logic I might as well ask somone if they like sardines or would rather be in a plane crash.
I at no point made such an assertion. I’m sure I know what you think you are referring to…but you go ahead and point out where you think I said that - and I’m happy to discuss it.
Where would I be projecting myself into this comic? Genuinely asking.
That’s a quite a lofty position you appear to be trying to speak down to me from. I chuckled.
Then why are you everywhere in the comments making all kinds of effort to complain about the artist and the message you see in their work?
Seems if we all agree this sort of thing happens to women, now and again, then we have nothing to argue over.