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I’d grant maybe Transylvania as Central Europe given it was part of Austria-Hungary for a good while. Good number of the German and Hungarian minorities in Romania are from there.
Moldova? Definitely not central Europe.
Romania is an odd Venn diagram really. Is it Balkan? Sort of. Eastern European? Yeah kind of. Maybe find where the stuffed vine leaf/stuffed cabbage leaf divide is and split it that way. Analogous to the olive oil/butter divide in Italy.
Oh shit Nordic is just North
I ironically agree with this take.
It’s like they haven’t updated their maps since the late dark ages/early middle ages.
I think I’m too American to get this.
Old soviet blocks countries are persistent on calling themselves central europeans whereas everyone eastern neighbor is automatically categorized eastern europeans.
Why are they doing this? Because when people think about Eastern Europe, the first thing to come in mind are poor people with intense alcohol issues and the Soviet Union, so this is a huge prestige / perception hit to these countries.
I had a Romanian friend in college who vehemently denied that her home country’s name and/or language had anything to do with Italy. It’s fucking wild the gymnastics people are willing to do in preservation of ego.
Nationalism is one hell of a drug
Central Europe exists as a concept between the Balkans, but mostly Eastern Europe and Western Europe. Germany, Czechia and Austria are usually placed in Central Europe, however some countries that are more to the East also sometimes try to snuck in, as Central Europe has a much better ring to it than Eastern Europe and comes with less prejudice. These countries mostly include Hungary (hey that’s where I’m from), Romania and some neighboring countries. It would be a pretty bald move to draw Central Europe as such in a textbook since the actual non-debated border ends three countries left to Moldova where this does.
Germany, Czechia and Austria are usually placed in Central Europe
Come on, we used to be Czechoslovakia, remember us. We Slovakians also want to be called Central Europe.
Yeah that was meant to be more of a list of examples.
i think the biggest ??? happens to Poland when we’re talking “central vs eastern europe”. because geographically - pretty central, historically - pretty eastern, and right now? who knows
Right now, definitely politically Central European. Culturally, they’ve played an important role in de-stigmatising Eastern Europe by not being monumental assholes for most of their time in the EU, while retaining their Eastern European culture.
Full disclaimer: I have yet to meet a Pole I think is anything less than a decent, nice person.
i’ve met a few! but… i’m polish, so you know :D i’m glad most of the bad eggs are contained here though
To be fair to the “Southern/Mediterranean” section, Balkans do love to tell the Spanish, Italians, and Portuguese that they’re honorary Balkans. But it’s laughable for Serbia and Bulgaria to get lumped in there.
But for Eastern Europe to not start at one end of Slovenia or the other is silly.
Don’t be like Europe suicidal down there.
So Baltics can into Nordics now?
The idea that Portugal would be considered part of the Nordics is laughable.
Nø!
maybe just a little, for a treat?
I feel they should be a gradient, and while we’re at it; we can do Romania a favour with their own gradient to. And Russia and Belarus should get their own colour with a label saying technically part of Europe and then Hungary and Slovenia can get a gradient to that, I expect those countries have something to do with Romania not wanting to be an Eastern European state
Scotland too please
I love how blatantly it juts out
The fact the piece of Russia in the European peninsula is also Central Europe makes this look more like an Axis map than anything.
Which makes Romania booting Hungary into the east and claiming parts of Bulgaria all the more relevant.
And also Moldova.
