I doubt that. The whole reason the DNC pushed him in and then kept him in the race wasn’t to stop Trump, it was to stop eftists from sneaking through the nomination process. The DNC “centrists” haven’t run a square primary since Obama stole the nomination from “it’s her turn” Hilary in 2008.
Eh, Hanlon’s Razor. There are certainly plenty of dirty neo-libs, but I also think the Democratic party is where passionate, practical minded, progressive political science types wind up, and I think that demographic is well-meaning but caught up in metrics.
Metrics rely on historical data. Obviously Biden should be the candidate, he’s an incumbent, and incumbents have an advantage. The problem is the sample size is too low (n = 47) to really control for most variables. Especially since when you consider the study longitudinally, n = 1.
Anyway, politics is hard, and I’m willing to give a little grace to those who are least trying to be smart. Strategists seem like the smart move, but the big paradox of analyzing a quickly-changing subject is that the more data-backed your strategy, the more outdated it is. The world moves too fast now.
I suspect a not-insignificant segment of the caucus has been been just sincerely trying to play the right moves.
The “he had to drop out” part is the issue and it wasn’t just because of people crying about his age, the whole “we finally beat Medicare” and his brain melting on live t.v played a big part.
I’m like 90% sure he said he’d run for one term when running in 2020, but then he held on to the belief that he was the only one who could win for too long that getting primary elections set up would have taken too long. Republicans were already talking about going to court over Kamala being added to the rolls “too late” so Kamala was “forced” on us.
He didn’t specify one term in 2020. His aides kept making comments in that direction, but nothing definitive. Back then it made me afraid he’d try to stay for a second term, because that seemed like a sure way to lose…
Sounding kinda fascy here for being the defender of democracy lmaooooo classic liberals. My way or the high way no room for discussion that makes you feel rightfully stupid and misinformed.
We’re not in a democracy, we’re in a capitalist duopoly, get with it and stop acting like a fucking child because the world doesn’t give you ideal options. Your choices are shit sandwich and bigger shit sandwich, if you refuse to choose then you will be force fed the bigger shit sandwich. There is no getting what you want out of the situation, there is literally no such thing as a club sandwich, it doesn’t exist, but you can make an attempt at not being force fed the larger pile of shit and bread.
Man you really are close. Unless you like the capitalist duopoly (which really they are two parties of capital so its hardly even a duopoly) then surely you must also understand from your vast studies that engaging with the lesser of two evils narrative is precisely how capital has been able to accrue more and more power over the systems that be. Every election cycle the Dems just move further right towards the Republicans and then y’all vote for them and wonder why shit sucks!
I dont subscribe to your defeatist attitude that allows you to justify inaction and shitty politics of individuality. Grow up and read some books.
That’s all entirely erroneous. Ignoring the reality of things for an idealist fantasy doesn’t make you morally superior, it makes you a tool.
What you call defeatism I call pragmatism and situational understanding. You’re demanding that perfection get in the way of progress or damage control, you’re not progressive, you’re exactly what the powers that be want you to be, absolutely fucking useless and ineffectual. You’re a dog of the state, they said roll over and you did exactly that.
I’m not advocating for the system to be what it is, I simply understand what it is, you obviously don’t and keep projecting what you’d like things to be. Stop being a useless idealist and examine the real world for what it is and how it’s actually functioning. This is not the time for dreams.
Most on the left are finished with trying to discuss, or find common ground, with the right There is no such thing. The right wing does not discuss in good faith, and they don’t believe in words. Hypocrisy doesn’t phase them and they have no shame. They will abandon a principle the moment it inconveniences them.
And frankly the world sees who you look up to, so if I were you I wouldn’t be slinging around accusations of stupidity.
Well it kinds does. Critique from the right will never lead to the reforms we need it will just be minorly improved shitty options because they will never substantially threaten the powers of capital that control our government.
I don’t think either side has accepted where they are and what needs to be done, regardless of how you got there.
It’s too late to talk about what the laws and regulations should be. Laws are irrelevant. The time to affect ideological change has passed, you missed the window. Even if you’re right about the causes, and I believe you and I would agree on that, those discussions are over. At this point it’s just more navel gazing and blaming that distracts from what needs to be done.
See, the democrats faied by not running a perfect candidate vs Hitler v2 /s
Edit: see the comments below mine proving my point. Look at all these chickens.
I would have been pretty happy if they had at least democratically selected a candidate.
Obligatory: Biden can go fuck himself right off a cliff. The narcissistic dogmatic prick refused to believe anyone but him could beat Trump…
I doubt that. The whole reason the DNC pushed him in and then kept him in the race wasn’t to stop Trump, it was to stop eftists from sneaking through the nomination process. The DNC “centrists” haven’t run a square primary since Obama stole the nomination from “it’s her turn” Hilary in 2008.
Eh, Hanlon’s Razor. There are certainly plenty of dirty neo-libs, but I also think the Democratic party is where passionate, practical minded, progressive political science types wind up, and I think that demographic is well-meaning but caught up in metrics.
Metrics rely on historical data. Obviously Biden should be the candidate, he’s an incumbent, and incumbents have an advantage. The problem is the sample size is too low (n = 47) to really control for most variables. Especially since when you consider the study longitudinally, n = 1.
Anyway, politics is hard, and I’m willing to give a little grace to those who are least trying to be smart. Strategists seem like the smart move, but the big paradox of analyzing a quickly-changing subject is that the more data-backed your strategy, the more outdated it is. The world moves too fast now.
I suspect a not-insignificant segment of the caucus has been been just sincerely trying to play the right moves.
He had to drop out because everyone was crying he was too old, then elected someone equally old but with an actual criminal record.
The “he had to drop out” part is the issue and it wasn’t just because of people crying about his age, the whole “we finally beat Medicare” and his brain melting on live t.v played a big part.
I’m like 90% sure he said he’d run for one term when running in 2020, but then he held on to the belief that he was the only one who could win for too long that getting primary elections set up would have taken too long. Republicans were already talking about going to court over Kamala being added to the rolls “too late” so Kamala was “forced” on us.
He didn’t specify one term in 2020. His aides kept making comments in that direction, but nothing definitive. Back then it made me afraid he’d try to stay for a second term, because that seemed like a sure way to lose…
Dude still thinks he would have won. Fuck him.
The world isn’t here to make you happy.
You make the best decision with what you’ve got.
Americans absolutely failed at doing so. Because they’re uninformed child-like dipshits.
Sounding kinda fascy here for being the defender of democracy lmaooooo classic liberals. My way or the high way no room for discussion that makes you feel rightfully stupid and misinformed.
We’re not in a democracy, we’re in a capitalist duopoly, get with it and stop acting like a fucking child because the world doesn’t give you ideal options. Your choices are shit sandwich and bigger shit sandwich, if you refuse to choose then you will be force fed the bigger shit sandwich. There is no getting what you want out of the situation, there is literally no such thing as a club sandwich, it doesn’t exist, but you can make an attempt at not being force fed the larger pile of shit and bread.
Man you really are close. Unless you like the capitalist duopoly (which really they are two parties of capital so its hardly even a duopoly) then surely you must also understand from your vast studies that engaging with the lesser of two evils narrative is precisely how capital has been able to accrue more and more power over the systems that be. Every election cycle the Dems just move further right towards the Republicans and then y’all vote for them and wonder why shit sucks!
I dont subscribe to your defeatist attitude that allows you to justify inaction and shitty politics of individuality. Grow up and read some books.
That’s all entirely erroneous. Ignoring the reality of things for an idealist fantasy doesn’t make you morally superior, it makes you a tool.
What you call defeatism I call pragmatism and situational understanding. You’re demanding that perfection get in the way of progress or damage control, you’re not progressive, you’re exactly what the powers that be want you to be, absolutely fucking useless and ineffectual. You’re a dog of the state, they said roll over and you did exactly that.
What’s erroneous? Praytell explain to me how capitalism works or something. This should be good I’ll go get popcorn.
I’m not advocating for the system to be what it is, I simply understand what it is, you obviously don’t and keep projecting what you’d like things to be. Stop being a useless idealist and examine the real world for what it is and how it’s actually functioning. This is not the time for dreams.
Most on the left are finished with trying to discuss, or find common ground, with the right There is no such thing. The right wing does not discuss in good faith, and they don’t believe in words. Hypocrisy doesn’t phase them and they have no shame. They will abandon a principle the moment it inconveniences them.
And frankly the world sees who you look up to, so if I were you I wouldn’t be slinging around accusations of stupidity.
Lmao do you think I’m on the right?
I don’t think it matters, to be honest.
Well it kinds does. Critique from the right will never lead to the reforms we need it will just be minorly improved shitty options because they will never substantially threaten the powers of capital that control our government.
I don’t think either side has accepted where they are and what needs to be done, regardless of how you got there.
It’s too late to talk about what the laws and regulations should be. Laws are irrelevant. The time to affect ideological change has passed, you missed the window. Even if you’re right about the causes, and I believe you and I would agree on that, those discussions are over. At this point it’s just more navel gazing and blaming that distracts from what needs to be done.
Corpocrats are just as hopeless as MAGA.
I am baffled by this comment…corpocrat?
Where do you get this idea that I am pro corpo or pro Dem?
This is such a funny moment of a liberal being unable to comprehend the political spectrum.
I was agreeing with you.
No democracy allowed in the Democrat party. They argued that in court.
So no criticism is allowed because you like the party? Damn, Trump would love to have you on his side.
Criticise all you want, but it came down to one clear name on the ballot who was not hitler jr and had a chance to win.
I would never say “vote blue no matter who” but on Election Day that was the only sane choice
Clearly the German Communists were to blame for the holocaust because they failed to stop Hitler and the Nazis.
That’s what you sound like.