In Trump’s first term, grassroots Democrats focused their ire on the Republican president. But now, after President Joe Biden’s reluctance to step aside in 2024 at age 81 helped pave the way for Trump’s return to the White House, many see their party’s own veterans as part of the problem.

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    🙄 does the neo-lib political caste have to be this in-your-face about how irrelevant they are?

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      Until we force them out of office, unironically yes. One of the things those with power get off on is exploiting the vulnerable and powerless as a flex. It’s the same reason so many of them hung out on Trump-Epstein island back in the day. They enjoy rubbing our faces in the fact that they consistently do nothing to help us, and routinely sell out our best interests to the donor class.

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      I’m a huge advocate of not voting, but the idea of Democrats my age or younger is tempting… I think people younger than me have some chance of ignoring Boomers and changing the direction of things.

      But if they’re Zionists, they can get fucked

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        Oh honey, it’s not just the boomers. Go over to rumble and YouTube and check out their cast of conservative streamers and you will see that this MAGA crap has infected the youth as well, and they are very energized. Many of them are in their 20’s, which means they’ve spent half their lives with this toxicity as the norm.

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            Dude. I mean this in all sincerity: Eat my entire ass. Conflating voting with support for genocide might not be the stupidest thing I’ve ever encountered, but it’s gotta be in the top twenty.

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        I’m a huge advocate of not voting

        Your opinion literally does not matter. You get no say here or anywhere unless you vote.

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        I’m a huge advocate of not voting,

        Ya’ll .ml users are NOT beating the allegations.

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            I am not trained to untangle these incoherent strings-of-consciousness ravings. You will need to escalate this ticket to another department.

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                I’m saying you’re a walking contradiction, who demands radical change but cannot be bothered with politics or nuance, your kind would plunge the world into equal or worse kinds of fascism and suffering than we have now because it’s equally mindless but cloaked in some kind of righteous entitlement and unrealistic perspectives of the world that only comes from ignorance and personal, emotional reactionary attitudes and a desire for vindication and validation over better outcomes.

                You want people to listen to you, to be provoked and to mobilize to do something, but you’re doing it so very wrong that I can only imagine you’re just a child who is barely learning how to influence people and be understood. Or you’re thriving in some kind of environment of abuse and hate directed at you, and like an incel trolling general public chats, you’re just here to validate some kind of hate for yourself you can’t let go of.

                Now you’re blocked by the way, I won’t see your rebuttal which I am sure would have been quite clever, so save your energy for the rest of the crowd here you seem to be really winning over.

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                  Voters have zero impact on policy and politics, that’s a luxury only afforded to the monied class. Your diatribe suggests you believe you have representation in government…

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                    If that were true then it wouldn’t hurt you to fucking vote. Unless your real reason is you’re the laziest fuck ever.

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            I’m sure not voting will change things. Good job, dumbass. Maybe try a primary so you’re not stuck with the mic puppets.

            Instead you’re giving them a rubber stamp

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              This. These assholes are like the people who say they’re okay eating anywhere and then bitch about the restaurant they wind up at the entire time.

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                You certainly were, since by not voting you helped make it worse.

                And president wasn’t the only position on the ballot. Getting a Congress that actually does its job could go a long way to stopping shit like this. But you not voting doesn’t do anything to fix it.

                Dumbass.

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        I’m a huge advocate of not voting

        An objectively and intentionally evil thing to advocate for.

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            You had a chance to push back against Trump but you said no. It goes without saying what is reasonable to think about someone who does that. You can write thousands of words pretending you’re justified but it never, ever, ever will be. Shame on you.

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              It wasn’t nonvoters that gave us Trump, it was liberals both times. Your party knew neither Biden or Harris could beat Trump but refused to primary Biden, collected billions in fundraising, and gave the false sense that victory was possible. They would have kept Biden if the monied class didn’t insist Biden drop out after his debate. Liberals dismissed his mental decline as a stutter when the signs were there before 2020 but insisted he was the right one for the job.

              Trump is a self inflicted wound brought on by liberal arrogant hubris.

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                Yes you’re right. The people who had no better choice are to blame, absolutely not the people made a specific choice to do nothing. Brilliant.

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                  Liberals never demand better from the politicians, they wait until they are told who and what to support . You confuse doing nothing with refusing to support your shade of fascism.

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                    Sitting at home is objectively doing nothing. The only thing you’re actually doing is encouraging others to do nothing. Which is clearly support for Nazis. You’ve made your choice. Your words cannot erase it.

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              I don’t have power.

              The Biden administration had power. The DNC has power. They did nothing to stop Trump. Indeed, they fought Mamdani harder than they fought Trump.

              And they are fine with systematically starving children. That’s who you’re standing up for. You’re punching down at me because now you’re forced to see the genocide in your own backyard.

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        They believe electoralism will create change as if they have any influence on policy or politics. The only change it creates is benefitting the wealthy at our expense.