I think he supports 2 state solution, right? So some people consider that a form of Zionism. Which seems a bit questionable because I believe that has also been Hamas’s position for the last few years, although they don’t call it that.
Maybe there’s more to it. To be honest I’m not overly worried about the exact positions of one of the more outspoken critics of Israel in congress. I’d much rather focus my ire on its defenders, which are many.
It’s a thing, it’s just inaccurate — that doesn’t change the hard facts that both sides somehow find their way to differently flavored authoritarianism.
I mean, it’s a thing the way all propaganda is a thing, but it’s not just inaccurate it’s deliberate because that’s how propaganda works.
that doesn’t change the hard facts that both sides somehow find their way to differently flavored authoritarianism
If you truly believe this you have no concept of what Socialism and/or Communism actually is and have fallen HARD for CIA propaganda.
Start with the FOIA section of the CIA website before they take it all down and read up on what the actually admit to when it comes to propagandizing US citizens.
Yeah you’ll need to be more accurate than ‘start with the FOIA section’ — right now I’m laughing at John Mulholland being paid $3k by the CIA to write a fucking ‘guide on trickery and deception’.
Unless you’re trying to say I’ve fallen for propaganda because they’re good at sleight of hand, at that point I can just direct my laughter in your direction.
While I’m doing that, how about you look up burden of proof buddy?
You’ll figure it out. Actually, on second thought, you likely should have already known about this. Which does beg the question ‘Why are you acting like you don’t?’ .
Bro, I don’t know what propaganda you’ve swallowed. I can’t anticipate where your knowledge holes are. You’ll have to be thorough on your own dime.
I’m not getting paid to educate you.
Frankly, IDGAF what you believe one way or the other, I’m just trying to help you by pointing out the obvious.
You’ve fallen for CIA propaganda. Like how you think Communism is bad and don’t seem to consider just how many billions of dollars the US spends every year to keep you believing that.
I’m sure the Fascists in control are happy with you though, so at least you’ve got that.
Best guess? They’re either truly dedicated satirists, gone off the metamodernist deep end into deep post-irony, or they’ve genuinely decided that modernist Grand Narratives weren’t really all that bad (let’s just ignore all the atrocities they brought about). After all, far-left modernist narratives aren’t at all like those other, far-right modernist narratives! They’re different, just like everybody else who is selling a utopia (that’s only practically attainable through an authoritarian regime).
Why do I keep seeing people on here call Bernie a liberal zionist?
I think he supports 2 state solution, right? So some people consider that a form of Zionism. Which seems a bit questionable because I believe that has also been Hamas’s position for the last few years, although they don’t call it that.
Maybe there’s more to it. To be honest I’m not overly worried about the exact positions of one of the more outspoken critics of Israel in congress. I’d much rather focus my ire on its defenders, which are many.
He don’t believe that zionism is a colonial project and said that bds is antisemitic
This is Lemmy. There are extreme left here. So left that they kind of horseshoe back towards the right again.
Also, I’ve definitely seen your username here for a while. I’m sure you know this by now.
Horseshoe theory is a psyop. It’s not a thing.
It’s a thing, it’s just inaccurate — that doesn’t change the hard facts that both sides somehow find their way to differently flavored authoritarianism.
I mean, it’s a thing the way all propaganda is a thing, but it’s not just inaccurate it’s deliberate because that’s how propaganda works.
If you truly believe this you have no concept of what Socialism and/or Communism actually is and have fallen HARD for CIA propaganda.
Start with the FOIA section of the CIA website before they take it all down and read up on what the actually admit to when it comes to propagandizing US citizens.
Good luck.
Yeah you’ll need to be more accurate than ‘start with the FOIA section’ — right now I’m laughing at John Mulholland being paid $3k by the CIA to write a fucking ‘guide on trickery and deception’.
Unless you’re trying to say I’ve fallen for propaganda because they’re good at sleight of hand, at that point I can just direct my laughter in your direction.
Keep reading. You’ll get there eventually. I’m sure you’re patient and diligent enough. I have faith in you.
YOU CAN DO EET!
Right.
While I’m doing that, how about you look up burden of proof buddy?
You’ll figure it out. Actually, on second thought, you likely should have already known about this. Which does beg the question ‘Why are you acting like you don’t?’ .
Bro, I don’t know what propaganda you’ve swallowed. I can’t anticipate where your knowledge holes are. You’ll have to be thorough on your own dime.
I’m not getting paid to educate you.
Frankly, IDGAF what you believe one way or the other, I’m just trying to help you by pointing out the obvious.
You’ve fallen for CIA propaganda. Like how you think Communism is bad and don’t seem to consider just how many billions of dollars the US spends every year to keep you believing that.
I’m sure the Fascists in control are happy with you though, so at least you’ve got that.
Toodles.
Unsure if edgy sarcasm or ML propaganda… Please disambiguate.
No more ML propaganda than the idea of horseshoe theory is CIA propaganda.
Also, ML propaganda? lol
Are still counting your age using “teen” at the end?
Thanks for disambiguating! :)
Di nada.
Also, no reason to use your 25 cent word of the day more than once. No one is impressed twice by its use.
Getting pissy at people for using a polysyllabic word twice isn’t coming across as the big own you seem to have been aiming for.
You are projecting David.
I’m far to old to be impressed by a new vocabulary word. Nothing more.
Sue me.
Why did you just say that?
Best guess? They’re either truly dedicated satirists, gone off the metamodernist deep end into deep post-irony, or they’ve genuinely decided that modernist Grand Narratives weren’t really all that bad (let’s just ignore all the atrocities they brought about). After all, far-left modernist narratives aren’t at all like those other, far-right modernist narratives! They’re different, just like everybody else who is selling a utopia (that’s only practically attainable through an authoritarian regime).
‘Horseshoe theory’ is nonsense – the far right and far left have little in common
Yes. I mean, the only thing they have in common is they are part of the human political spectrum…
It truly boggles my mind that people don’t understand enough about politics and propaganda to realize this.
We’re not indoctrinated with this theory for no reason. Anti-communist propaganda serves bourgeois interests.
They only have little in common if you’re unimaginative.
Or one of them.
“Unscratched” liberals have much more in common with fascists than socialists.
One day you might look back on this and laugh at all the CIA propaganda you believed was true.
Oooohhh, spooky! 👻
If you paid a visit to the CIA website and read through all of the FOIA stuff they admit to you might not be so flippant.
I mean, you might be, I don’t know who pays you…
That’s a Ken M type account. Go with it.
I used to play golf with Ken M.
Did he bring tree branches instead of clubs?
Who?
Ken M.
Oh.
No, no. Ken M.
Ken M
Oh
Because he is
Yeah anyone who isn’t a fraud must be a zionist.
Because he’s American
Oh honey if you think Americans invented liberal Zionism have I got news for you.