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      Sovereignty is a huge issue here - handing control of critical infrastructure to a US oligarch is just begging to be coerced and exploited.

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        Same applies to all social networks and MS Windows, right? Just making sure I’m tracking - these are also hated here? Things that rich people own manufacturing of? What about cars? They’re pretty much govt spyware now too. Just wondering how far this govt coercion hatred extends into everyday life.

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          Unironically, yes. I don’t know if you’re trying to make that scenario sound ridiculous, but I can assure you that it very much is not. At least outside of the US.

          It’s not everyone at the moment, but the IT people who are paying attention are freaking the fuck out. I legitimately think Microsoft, AWS, and GCP will lose substantial market share overseas in the next 24 months.

          Consider that much of the rest of the world has started trusting China more than the US. Now think about the US CLOUD Act. What person in their right mind is going to feel comfortable hosting their company’s most sensitive data within jurisdictional reach of whatever the fuck is going on over there?

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            Oh I agree! But I still drive a car and use windows when I have to. I don’t want to, but to avoid it is currently quite a life nuisance. And that’s I suppose how I feel about those who use Starlink.

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            Oh I agree! But I still drive a car and use windows when I have to. I don’t want to, but to avoid it is currently quite a life nuisance. And that’s I suppose how I feel about those who use Starlink.

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        It seems I stepped on a landmine. My bad. I truly didn’t and don’t realize that satellite internet is destroying humanity but I hear now it’s the guy that started the company that is so I have to hate those too.

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          Starlink has been proven to be utilized for dubious activity to undermine sovereignty (see Mossad coup attemptin Iran as a most recent example). It hides under the guise of global internet for those who otherwise wouldn’t have access but seeing as how it comes at the cost of western imperial overreach, having solid counter measures ain’t a bad idea.

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          Ah, Ok so you don’t particularly have anything against humanity, you’re just an ignoramus with no sense of right/wrong and a chronic inability to read the fucking room, and tacitly accepts the products and services of a Nazi pedophile techbro. Gotcha.

          Hope you recover from the landmine injury!

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        Huge fan of Alec, seen most his vids and yeah I caught that earlier this week, including the full ending.

        I agree with and love every bit of that video except for that part about Starlink. Everything in his video aligns with my view of the world and I learned a ton of stuff as well, but I feel like this one I would have to sit down and think about a lot more.

        It seemed out of place in the video in fact. I brushed it off and didn’t go further down the rabbit hole, but nothing he said changes my mind immediately on this particular matter. Everything else in the video made total sense and easily defensible.

        I am realizing now that perhaps this was simply a cheap jab at Elon - Just because everyone hates Elon right now. You have me thinking and maybe I’ll rewatch it and think through this a lot more. I don’t recall him saying anything specific against Elon himself. Prob a dramatic eye roll?

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            IIRC his point was that 5G to every household is better than an ISP satellite constellation. That felt like it was ignoring so much including national security (for USA at least), global impact, and upgrade costs.

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        I also have a problem with overengineered inferior solutions to investing in improving and expanding what is cheap and works very well and that will negatively impact future space projects.

        You know, his entire shtick.

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        Oooooo. Wow ppl really just gonna hate everything he touches eh?

        Remind me why. Is it mainly because of his attempt to reduce government spending, his views on trans, his Asperger’s, or his odd approach to reproducing with women?

        SpaceX has 10k employees that aren’t Elon ya know.

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            Yes I understand that’s the party line. I was hoping for something more concrete but now it feels like this is being answered in bad faith so we can shut it down

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              What party line? It’s the truth? He’s in the Epstein files begging to go “party” on the island. He hit multiple nazi salutes on camera. It’s not a line it’s a statement of fact Elon Musk is a nazi pedophile.

              Bad faith is when people point out my idol is fucking evil.

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                I genuinely saw the man making a hand gesture out to all the people. I didn’t see, nor have I even seen, any sign or symptom that he’s actually a Nazi.

                The pedo thing, eh that’s pretty inconclusive that he was touching underage women because he asked to go to a party imo. I prefer a bit more damning evidence.

                The man isn’t my idol. I hate a lot of his personal life and the way he appears to treat woman.

                I truly am thinking independently, and I understand that your view on the world is different. Is this all it takes for you to say pedo Nazi or is there more?

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                  I was hoping you were genuinely concerned about the most effective and equitable solution to get such an important utility to as many people as possible but clearly you’re just here to defend the weird billionaire

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                    I am concerned. I didn’t bring up billionaire. I just wonder why we damn a whole company of 10k ppl doing cool science shit because we don’t like the CEO.

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          I already see this is going to be a fruitless discussion with those proposed discussion points. “His attempt to reduce government spending” 🤣 “attempt”.

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            not even sure what you’re laughing abt. but fair to say it’s not going to be fruitless given this response.