• Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    People always go on about how the armed forces hate Trump. If that’s the case, how come they never balk at carrying out all those blatantly illegal orders?

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      Nah, back when I was Chair Force 20 years ago we were fed a constant stream of FOXNews in the common areas. I don’t imagine that’s changed at all, so the rank and file should probably be considered to be about the same as the boomers politically. The hope was that the officer corps would resent his draft dodging stolen valor ass, but even that would have only lasted until the Pentagon got purged.

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        8 minutes ago

        The air force in particular had a pretty strong evangelical bent even back then. Can’t imagine it’s improved any.

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      People always go on about how the armed forces hate Trump.

      They do?

      My impression has always been that some of the military hates him, but it’s a very small handful.

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        My impression has always been that it’s a shitshow.

        • Military vertical culture is “fuck your opinion, do your job” or “failure to obey orders.” Refusing illegal orders is a theoretical training seminar that covers examples like sexual favors and cleaning out the bosses car.
        • Military horizontal culture is “I’m just here to do my job, eventually go to school” and “failure to report.”

        There’s not really any room to hate Trump. I mean… go ahead, hate him… They have about the same regard for that as they would have for any conservative members hating Obama. They don’t want to hear it, unless it’s just you and your bud shooting shit on a long watch. You do your job, that’s it.

        High-ranking members get disgruntled and choose to retire or whatever. That only weakens the reserve of people who aren’t just blindly following orders.

        They aren’t taught to have opinions. They’re taught to stand at attention so that someone else can breathe down their neck and talk shit unrelentingly. They’re taught to breathe the farts in deep, until they start seeing the shenanigans as tough love.

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      4 hours ago

      I’ve been out long enough to not have a sense of the current vibe. I’m just pointing out that there’s a solution if they’re really that pissed.

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        3 hours ago

        I’m not denying that. In saying they’re not anywhere near as pissed as people make it out to be. It seems like a lot of people in the US armed forces are on board with the fascist takeover of their country.

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          Seems like you don’t understand how military training is. Boot camps purpose is to beat the critical thinking and individuality out of you. Officer school is all about how to control peons.

          The system works as designed.