• alonsohmtz@feddit.uk
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    She’d better watch out.

    Trump is good for the rich people, so anyone who threatens him threatens them.

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    forced a woman to give him oral sex when she was in her early teens

    Talk about failure as a journalist. I just can’t with these assholes. They’re almost as guilty as Trump in that their word choice helps every last one of those bastards get away with it.

    If the GIRL was a TEEN, then she was a CHILD, not a woman. I don’t care about the potential for alternative interpretations here. The frame placed on the situation is done with one word: woman. Not teen. Not child. Not kid. Not girl. “Woman”. Which creates a sideways shift in perception.

    I am so sick of this shit.

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      Again, this isn’t a failure, the media is working exactly as intended. They aren’t on our side, they’re on the side of the ruling class. The ruling class bought and own the media. They aren’t going to use the media to criticize themselves.

      If we want to see justice, we need to make it. We need to take action. The rules of the system protect the ruling class. We need to break the rules and break the system itself.

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            They wouldn’t need to blackmail our politicians if that was the case . I think you’ve got it backwards it’s us who’s occupied by them. Netynahu is calling the shots Trump is a joke

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              I don’t have it backwards, I promise you. Israel is a colony set up by the US and the UK with the explicit purpose of advancing their foreign policy goals in the Middle East. The US pretends that Israel is a sovereign nation because the US population would not tolerate their actions if it was their own country.

              Israel destabilizes the middle east, making the region ripe for extractionism.

              Not all US politicians are aligned with US/Israeli imperialist interests and thus they are bribed, but plenty of them aren’t.

              Trump is a puppet, but he’s not Israel’s puppet, he’s the puppet of the primarily US-based ruling elite.

              Look at all of the connections between Mossad and the CIA. They work together all the time.

              Stop spreading their misinfornation for them.

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      Certin News people faced justice when the Nazis fell, a lot of people forget that it wasnt just the soldier of the regime that were tried and persecuted. Tho this person likely isn’t the subject, her editer def might get looked over

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        He raped a 13 year old girl. There. I said what should be in the headlines.

        “Underage woman” is a phrase used by pedophile supporters.

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          You even wrote the word underage, nobody is supporting that, your point makes no sense

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            “Underage woman” is an oxymoron. Woman means adult female, and cannot be described as underage without contradicting yourself. These journalists are attempting to lessen the emotional response and confuse people by avoiding saying child or teenager.

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                  what the fuck? so… let me get this straight. you say we’re not mad about the systematic child exploitation. we say “yes we are” you say “what, specifically, are you upset about” we say “the systematic child exploitation” and then you call me an incel?

                  that’s…

                  really weird. it seems like you just want to be mad at people on the internet today. unless we can clear up whatever misunderstanding this is, i’m going to assume you’re a troll and block you because you are absolutely not behaving like someone who actually wants to do something about this problem and instead wants to do some fake moralizing about how the rest of us only care about words and you’re the only one who’s actually concerned about the sytematic child exploitation.

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      There’s a distinct difference between how some of these terms are used depending on context. There is biological status and then there is legal status.

      So be careful where & when you take issue.

      Here, legal terms are appropriate due to the subject matter, and you should definitely suggest to the authors that they adjust the terms used accordingly.

      Just complaing to the ether may be cathartic, but inaction is also complicit.

      However teen is a teen regardless of context, as it’s a designation of age group, not a legal or biological classification. So it’s up to the reader to determine relevance of the teens age beyond that.

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        Even in paper days journalism deliberately packed their first and second sentences of an article with the most punchy and relevant details because they knew, with every additional sentence, readers were lost.

        The line is buried. And could be stated more succinctly with “13 year old girl”, punching in the relevant details.

        Instead, extra words are added. It’s deliberate. And it’s journalism’s job not to do this because a large slice of readers will hit only the key words and move on.

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    Feds knew. America knew.

    This is America.

    And the darkest part is the sex trafficking and rape most likely is just the tip of how evil they are. They don’t just want to own sex slaves, they want, or even more likely have the upper hand in owning humanity.

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      i wonder when they get bored of raping kids and start having hungergame style fucked up shit or something even more horrifying. Who knows if they already do in secret.

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      That’s called composition. A formal logical fallacy. Supersets are not homogenous. Applying what’s true about a subset to the superset is possibly correct but often isn’t.

      For instance, all dogs are collies is demonstrably wrong. But all collies are dogs is true.

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    Again, early teens is not a woman, that’s grade school or beginning of high school:

    TNR reporter Edith Olmsted wrote that “A 21-page slideshow buried in the massive trove of Epstein-related documents included allegations that sometime between 1983 and 1985, Trump forced a woman to give him oral sex when she was in her early teens,” Olmsted wrote. “When the woman bit down on Trump’s exposed penis, he allegedly punched her in the head and kicked her out. That same woman told the DOJ that Epstein had introduced her to Trump in 1984.”

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      The correct terminology depends on context.

      As others have mentioned, when they said woman there they were referring to the present report of a woman, who was a teen and the time of the event.

      Calling an adult female human a woman is not wrong.

      Calling a teen a teen is not wrong.

      Legally teens under 18 are also children.

      Technically everyone is someone’s child.

      Though not considered adults by most laws, biologically people become adults after puberty, which varies by individual. The period during puberty they are adolescents, neither children nor yet adults.

      Context matters.

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        What are you talking about? It’s plain wrong. “Trump forced a woman” is incorrect. She wasn’t a woman then, it doesn’t matter that she is one now. He forced a child.

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        You’re not wrong.

        Before the late 1800s age of consent laws didn’t exist. Like a bar mitzvah was a celebration of adulthood, at 13, iirc.

        Marrying children was common. And knocking up young teen girls was normal. And this still happens…

        I think the saying was/is, “old enough to bleed, old enough to breed.”